SWS IG scratchpad

What I'd like to see...
posted by danbri at 2004-12-01 12:17

danbri: ...in the Web Services / SemWeb scene, is a workable framework for plugging together normal (public, readonly) queries against SOAP services into SPARQL-based RDF query
bijan: You would.
danbri: Since many public Web Services are thinly disguised database lookups anyway. Either "find a known item" or "find a bunch of hits and return these fields". Which is a pattern that SPARQL + ws interface sort of normalises.

What's up with WSMO?
posted by bijan at 2004-12-01 12:09

bijan: I'm having a bit of trouble finding a news/pub update page in the huge tangle of WSMO related sites.
bijan: There might be some stuff on the last plenary meeting page.
bijan: Except you need a username and password to get at anything. Sigh.
bijan: Must not like me :)
bijan: Ah, I guess you need to look at the WSMO (et al) working drafts page.
bijan: Er..though I'm not sure what "final draft of the latest versions" means.
danbri: _need_ is a strong word to use...
danbri: Last I investigated it was all f-logic and no RDF. So mid-90s. DERI folks said that'd get fixed though.
bijan: "need" isn't strong in the context.
bijan: And this chump is not showing up on the scratchpad :(
bijan: But thanks for playing, danbri!
danbri: I think there's a time lag with the chump...
bijan: And I knew about the F-Logic, but I was wondering a bit about the content of the ontologies. And just wondering if they've gotten over their OWL-S envy :)
bijan: Heh, amusing: "This document is also available in non-normative PDF version. The intent of the document is to be submitted to a standarization body." Er...isn't this document non-normative too? :)

First "demo" releast of the Protege OWL-S edtior plugin
posted by bijan at 2004-12-01 12:02

bijan: From SRI/Stanford.
bijan: And it's been a long time acoming.
bijan: There was a demo paper about it at iswc
bijan: Since CMU has someone lurking on this channel, I'll leave it to them to pimp their work :)

One of the last DAML PI meetings, this week
posted by bijan at 2004-12-01 11:46

bijan: I think! I'm pretty out of the loop being in Japan and all.
bijan: Lots on services I imagine, what with the OWL-S Submission.
bijan: W3Cers are welcome.

Task Computing: Ubliquitous semantic web services for end users
posted by bijan at 2004-12-01 11:31

bijan: In case you've not seen it.
bijan: I have to talk about it on Friday, so the pimpage isn't entirely spontaneous.
bijan: Alas, it's not entirely obvious how to get to the goodies, but I think if you try to logon, it will start the process.
bijan: The environment is pretty sophisticated. It uses OWL-S all the way.
bijan: One thing I find pretty interesting is how it's very easy to publish new, specialize SWS descriptions (and deployed services).
bijan: We don't actually, IIRC, have composition save and publish going (though it's not hard), but, for example, you can create various sorts of infoproviding services.
bijan: At a fine grain. So a "file providing service" simple returns a specific file.
bijan: I don't think this scales, in general, but it works pretty well for meet 'n' greet 'n' meeting situations where there are a relatively small number of chunky bits of information that need to be acted on in a number of ways.
bijan: E.g., a presentation.