Minutes WS Choreography WG conference call 4 April 2006

IRC log: http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-ws-chor-irc

Attendees:Steve Ross-Talbot, Martin Chapman, Gary Brown, Charlton Barreto, Monica Martin, Yves Lafon

Agenda: 
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	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2006Apr/att-0001/Agenda20060404-0.txt

1. Role Call
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	Monica, Gary, Yves, Steve, Martin, Charlton (by IRC)

Apologies:
	None

2. Confirm scribe
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	Gary Brown

3. Agenda Changes
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	None

4. Minutes of last meeting
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	14th Feb 2006
		http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-chor/2006Feb/att-0006/minutes_20060214_-_0.txt
	Minutes - PASSED

5. Action item review
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	1. ACTION: Provide examples in primer for issue 1503 of how to use lists/arrays - bounded and unbounded
 	IN PROGRESS

	2. ACTION: Add text in primer to explain interaction lifecycle, and that exchanges are only guaranteed 
	   if align=true,
 	IN PROGRESS

	3. ACTION: Add pitfalls sub-section in Advanced Topics section, and include the distributed choice problem
	DONE

	4. ACTION: SRT to request CG to ask relevant group to provide example of using semantics in CDL
	DONE 

	5. ACTION: SRT Describe Connectedness/Strong Connectedness design patterns in CDL
	IN PROGRESS

	6. ACTION: Redraft Sections 1, Sections 2, and part of Section 3 for a more natural flow in the text
	IN PROGRESS

	7. ACTION: MC to add gary's issues from his slides into bugzilla
	IN PROGRESS

6. Primer status
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	Updated version - to follow
	http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/chor/edcopies/primer/primer.html
	Gary's response:
		http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2006Feb/0001.html

	SRT: Do changes need to be traced back to bugzilla
	MC: May need to be - will look at entries in bugzilla
	Yves: Primer is to be found at:
		http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/chor/edcopies/primer/primer.html
	SRT: Summarises changes to primer
	SRT: Reverse engineered ws-cdl schema for diagram in primer
	SRT: Section 4 has been re-written
	SRT: Examples build up - simple initially, then introducing timeouts, then other participants 
	     (with no channel passing)
	SRT: Next example introduces dependent workunit
	SRT: Final diagram in section shows channel passing- but needs more work and annotations
	SRT: 4.1.1 Variables - think this section is complete
	SRT: Some work to be done on ws-cdl fragment 4.1.2 (workunits)
	SRT: Dealt with most of Gary's and Greg's comments - not dealt with Monica's or Charlton's yet
	SRT: Section 4 to 4.1.2.1 needs to be reviewed by group

	SRT: Asks for review of :
		2.3 The Structure of WS-CDL
		4 Intermediate Topics
			4.1 The Intermediate Example
			4.1.1 Variables
			4.1.2 Workunits
			4.1.2.1 Repetition

	MC: Sometime we need to do a walkthrough, where style can be handled
	SRT: Sections needing to be done: 2.1 and 2.2, sections 5 and 6
	SRT: Any other issues about primer?

7. Examples repository
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	MC to check with Charlton on status
	CB: I'm finishing up on examples

8. Formal semantics status
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	On target
	SRT: Kohei responded back to group
	Yves: as soon as he receives the doc from Kohei will produce a HTML working note

9. Implementations status
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	1. Pi4 Tech
	2. Imperial - are willing and able to do an implementation
	3. TrustCom
	4. Others ....

	GB: no more news - still to implement coordination and alignment
	NEW ACTION: SRT To setup meeting with Howard Foster about 2nd impl

10. Talks and papers
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	SRT: Number of academic papers on WS-CDL is going up
	SRT: when doing google search
	Yaron's blog mentioning Choreography http://www.goland.org/soal/
	12th May - Cambridge Seminar Steve and Kohei
	CB: I'll be giving a talk at WWW2006 in May
	CB: talk at the TP06 went quite well - have a number of interested parties following up on pi-calc
	CB: I made a couple mods (to head off the usual diversions) to compare pi-calc with other formal 
	    methods, describe a little more of the benefits pi-calc provided, etc

11. AOB
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	NONE

12. Next Call
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	11th April 2006

SUMMARY OF ACTION ITEMS
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1. ACTION: Provide examples in primer for issue 1503 of how to use lists/arrays - bounded and unbounded
 IN PROGRESS

2. ACTION: Add text in primer to explain interaction lifecycle, and that exchanges are only guaranteed if align=true,
 IN PROGRESS

3. ACTION: SRT Describe Connectedness/Strong Connectedness design patterns in CDL
IN PROGRESS

4. ACTION: Redraft Sections 1, Sections 2, and part of Section 3 for a more natural flow in the text
IN PROGRESS

5. ACTION: MC to add gary's issues from his slides into bugzilla
IN PROGRESS

6. NEW ACTION: SRT To setup meeting with Howard Foster about 2nd impl