Minutes WS Choreography WG conference call 20 September
2005
IRC: http://www.w3.org/2005/09/20-ws-chor-irc
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2005Sep/att-0018/Agenda20050920-0.txt
Latest Editors Draft is at:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/chor/edcopies/cdl/cdl.html
1. Role Call
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Charlton, Monica, Greg, Steve, Yves, Gary, Nick
Apologies:
Martin, Abbie
2. Confirm scribe
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Steve
3. Agenda Changes
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None
4. Minutes of last meeting
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6th September 2005
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-chor/2005Sep/att-0013/minutes-20050906-0.txt
ADOPTED
5. Action item review
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1. ACTION: for the group to review on the latest CDL editors draft
(that is going to be sent by Greg to the member's list)
SUSPENDED for the moment - chairs would like to figure out how close we are ...
2. ACTION: to editors: in section 5.6 all the examples should be in 'yellow'
DONE
3. ACTION: Editors: Exception Type should be exception type
DONE
4. ACTION: Editors: cdl:hasExceptionOccurred has to be hasExceptionOccurred
DONE
5. ACTION: editors to change: cdl:hasExceptionOccurred has to be hasExceptionOccurred
DONE
6. ACTION: editors to change: Exception Type to exception type
DONE
7. ACTION: To add primer issue on lower level exceptions
IN PROGRESS
8. ACTION: SRT & Gary to go through examples and potential semantics issues
CLOSED - IRRELEVANT
6. Moving toward CR
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1. A url to a document (in html) that we can review
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/chor/5/09/snapshotCR.html
2. A url to the previous version reviewed back in August
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/chor/5/07/snapshotCR.html
3. A document listing the differences between the two
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/chor/5/09/diff.html
Yves: diff is the diff between july snapshot and sept snapshot
Yves: I'll generate the diff aginst the last call version when wil will formally publish the real CR
charlton: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/chor/5/07/snapshotCR.html is dated August 4 2005
nick: Diff between Aug4, Sept19\
Steve: recommends voting on draft next week now we have everything we need to conduct a full review.
NEW ACTION: SRT will send urls to all docs to WG
7. Issues that require urgent attention
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1. Last Call issues
2. Schema issue (latest entry in thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2005Sep/0015.html)
Process: Steve, Martin and Yves to bundle CR for the W3C directors and defend it before the panel
Process: WG has to vote on the CR document with this in mind
Yves notes that when we decide to go to CR we need to be clear in minutes.
*** Tony Schema issue:
Any objections to Tony's first proposal?
Tony's proposal (in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2005Sep/0015.html) is ACCEPTED.
WG ADOPTS PROPOSAL
NEW ACTION: Editors to make change for first proposal as per proposal in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2005Sep/0015.html
*** Nick issue:
Section 1. Intro
Yves notes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2005Sep/0001.html\
Change: "Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP)" to "SOAP" in itallics
Nick: Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP) -> SOAP in italics
Charlton: i.e. change" "Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP): defines the basic formatting of a message and the basic delivery options independent of programming language, operating system, or platform. A SOAP compliant Web Service knows how to send and receive SOAP-based messages
Charlton: to "SOAP: defines the basic formatting of a message and the basic delivery options independent of programming language, operating system, or platform. A SOAP compliant Web Service knows how to send and receive SOAP-based messages"
PROPOSAL ACCEPTED
WG ADOPTS PROPOSAL
NEW ACTION: Editors to make change for Yves proposal as above
*** Tony's second bulleted proposal (in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2005Sep/0015.html):
SRT: Any objections?
Nick objects to bullet 2
Nick and Yves feel that "xsi:schemaLocation=" <http://www.w3.org/2005/08/ws-chor/cdl>
http://www.w3.org/2005/08/ws-chor/cdl" is unneeded in the 6.2.3 example
NOT ACCEPTED
WG DOES NOT ADOPT PROPOSAL
Charlton feels bullet 4 s/b closed, no action
NOT ACCEPTED
WG DOES NOT ADOPT PROPOSAL
*** Tony's third bulleted proposal (in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2005Sep/0015.html)
Bullet 3, Yves indicates it will be addressed in the CR process
CLOSED
WG DOES NOT ADOPT PROPOSAL
Summary of Tony's proposals: issues 1 & 3 w/b addressed, 2 & 4 require no action
*** Gary and Steve affiliations
Gary and Steve; Pi4 Technologies Ltd (instead of Enigmatec Corporation / Pi4tech Ltd)
PROPOSAL ACCEPTED
WG ADOPTS PROPOSAL
8. Next F2F
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Will there be one?
Where will it be?
When shall we have it?
Focus turns from spec craft to using CDL
Yves: thinks that f2f have higher "bandwidth", but cost the time of the travel
Yes, Yves, balancing higher bandwidth against cost and time of travel
Greg: willing to see about NYC
SRT notes that generally people want to have a next F2F
Will there be one?
YES
Where will it be?
Seems to be London or UK
When shall we have it?
Sounds like Nov/Dec
Noted:
Yves is booked nov 25 -> dec 7 (meetings in montreal)
Yves week of dec 12-16 is good
Charlton charlton is booked nov 14 -> nov 18
Charlton> week of dec 12-16 would work for me
Yves> (tentative)
NEW ACTION: Nick to ask Martin on F2F and Oracle in London
NEW ACTION: SRT to check Brighton as venue
9. AOB
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None
SUMMARY OF ACTION ITEMS
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1. ACTION: for the group to review on the latest CDL editors draft
2. NEW ACTION: SRT will send urls to all docs to WG
3. NEW ACTION: Editors to make change for first proposal as per proposal in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2005Sep/0015.html
4. NEW ACTION: Editors to make change for Yves proposal as above
5. NEW ACTION: Nick to ask Martin on F2F and Oracle in London
6. NEW ACTION: SRT to check Brighton as venue