Minutes WS Choreography WG conference call 28 June 2005

IRC: http://www.w3.org/2005/06/28-ws-chor-irc

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-chor/2005Jun/att-0031/Agenda-06282005-0.txt
        

1. Role Call
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        Martin, Charlton, Gary, Yves, Steve, Abbie, Monica

2. Confirm scribe
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        Steve

3. Agenda Changes
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        None

4. Approve minutes
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        31st May
                http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-chor/2005Jun/att-0007/MeetingMinutes20050531-0.txt
                
        F2F June
                http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-chor/2005Jun/att-0006/June_2005_F2F_minutes_-_1.txt

        Minutes 31st May and F2F APPROVED
        
5. Action item review 
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        1. ACTION: Martin to do UML diagram from scratch for CDL 
        NO PROGRESS - NO CHANGE
        Clarified that this is for the primer not the spec.

        2. ACTION: chairs to respond to issue raiser for closed issues 
        STANDING ITEM 

        3. ACTION: Steve and/or Martin to generate a list of the issue numbers that the editing team should be 
        working on as a spot check.
        REMOVED

        4. NEW ACTION: Mark 1004 as Close WONTFIX
        DONE
        5. NEW ACTION: Mark 1005 as Close WONTFIX
        DONE
        6. NEW ACTION: Mark 1021 as Close WONTFIX
        DONE
        7. NEW ACTION: Mark 1038 as Resolved FIXED
        DONE
        8. NEW ACTION: Editor's to promote subsections of 2 up a level, so that each major subsection becomes a section.
        DONE
        9. NEW ACTION: Mark 1126 as Close WONTFIX
        DONE
        10. NEW ACTION: Martin to close Issue 1026, referring to 1001. 
        DONE
        11. NEW ACTION: Steve(/Greg?) to update Bugzilla to mark 1035 as Resolved FIXED.
        DONE
        12. NEW ACTION: Mark 1053 as Close WONTFIX
        DONE
        13. NEW ACTION: Steve to suggest a W3C Web Services Activity coordination group primer.
        IN PROGRESS
        14. NEW ACTION: Yves to produce an implementation page for the WS-Choreography website.
        IN PROGRESS
        15. NEW ACTION: SRT to craft exit criteria based on decisions at F2F to send to editors to fold in to document.
        IN PROGRESS

        16. NEW ACTION: Editors to reword section on Relationships to be a section on Interoperability (same content)
        IN PROGRESS
        NEW ACTION - LOG ISSUE FOR ITEM 16

        17. NEW ACTION: Editors to add new secion 1.7, Authoratative Schema, with content as agreed at the F2F
        DONE
        18. NEW ACTION: Mark Issue 1039 as editorial/resolved later, with the actual text defined in F2F minutes.
        DONE
        19. NEW ACTION: Mark issue 1110 as editorial/resolved later with wording agreed at F2F
        DONE
        20. NEW ACTION: Mark Issue 1008 as Editorial/Resolved later and incorporate the proposal agreed at the F2F
        DONE
        21. NEW ACTION: Tony to check with peter to see if there is a reason why Gary's proposal might be flawed 
        DONE
        22. NEW ACTION: Martin to put on agenda confirmation vote to adopt Gary's proposal unless Tony gets 
        some information from Peter that the group beieves means Gary's proposal should be adopted 
        DONE
        23. NEW ACTION: Mark 1459 as editorial/resolved later with text agreed at F2F.
        DONE
        24. NEW ACTION: Mark 1493 as editorial/resolved later with proposal agreed at F2F
        DONE
        25. NEW ACTION: Issue 1003, Gary to draft proposal text based on definitions agreed at F2f
        DONE
        26. NEW ACTION: Mark 1101 as Close resolved WONTFIX based on agreement at F2F
        DONE

        27. NEW ACTION: Kohei - write how to make the implicit session model explicit (issue 1496).
        DONE
        NEW ACTION: Chairs to ensure that it [issue 1496 and Kohei's response] is discussed at conf call next week

        28. NEW ACTION: Mark 1075 as Close WONTFIX based on decision at the F2f 
        DONE
        29. NEW ACTION: Chairs Confirm dates for F2F SRT 
        IN PROGRESS

        30. NEW ACTION: Issue 1166, Gary to rewrite proposal to this to capture editorial changes 
        DONE
        NEW ACTION: Chairs to bring proposal for 1166 to group for discussion next week or week after


6. Proposals
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Outstanding issues:
Issue 1108:
        Martin: Raised Issue 1108 which we appear to have missed.
        In 2.4.5 Choreographies added the sentence after the bullets on the isolation
        attribute:If a choreography has its isolation set to true, then any and all sub
        choreographies it has are also isolated.

        Proposals:
        Gary pastes proposal into IRC:
        Change: When isolation is set to "true", changes to the Variable information MUST be 
        visible for read or for write to its sibling Choreographies only after this Choreography has completed
        To: When isolation is set to "true", changes to the Variable information MUST be visible for read or 
        for write to its sibling Choreographies only after this Choreography has completed successfully. If 
        the Choreography completes unsuccessfully,then the changes to the variables will be discarded.

        PROPOSAL ABOVE ADOPTED
        ACTION: editors to mark 1108 as last call editorial with "RESOLVED LATER"

Issue 1166:
        Martin: Asks what does the lifeline say wrt to finalization
        Gary: Two options to treat it as undef or finalizer blocks until choreo completes (acting like a join).
        Binding section should include reliable messaging and security

7. Issues requiring clarification
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        None

9. AOB
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        None

10. Meeting closed
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SUMMARY OF OUTSTANDING ACTIONS:
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        1. ACTION: Martin to do UML diagram from scratch for CDL 
        NO PROGRESS - NO CHANGE
        Clarified that this is for the primer not the spec.

        2. ACTION: chairs to respond to issue raiser for closed issues 
        STANDING ITEM 

        3. NEW ACTION: Steve to suggest a W3C Web Services Activity coordination group primer.
        IN PROGRESS

        4. NEW ACTION: Yves to produce an implementation page for the WS-Choreography website.
        IN PROGRESS

        5. NEW ACTION: SRT to craft exit criteria based on decisions at F2F to send to editors to fold in to document.
        IN PROGRESS

        6. NEW ACTION: Editors to reword section on Relationships to be a section on Interoperability (same content)
        IN PROGRESS

        7. NEW ACTION - LOG ISSUE FOR ITEM 16

        8. NEW ACTION: Chairs to ensure that it [issue 1496 and Kohei's response] is discussed at conf call next week

        9. NEW ACTION: Chairs to bring proposal for 1166 to group for discussion next week or week after