Minutes of WSAWG 02 May 2002

Scribe: Jeff Mischkinsky ( jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com )

1. Roll call, scribes for minutes/action items

2. Agenda review, and AOB

3. Approval of 25 Apr telcon minutes [2]

Minutes approved with no objections and will be published.

4. Review action items [3]

ACTION: DavidO: Send updated version of DAG0010 to the public list and say that
it was accepted [PENDING] [1]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/04/25-ws-arch-irc#T19-44-54
ACTION: Chris (and Zulah): send proposed wording to list and take it to
email [PENDING] [2]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/04/25-ws-arch-irc#T19-45-02

ACTION: Zulah to determine the validity of the previous action item [3]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/04/25-ws-arch-irc#T19-45-59
ACTION: Hugo to insert Joe's requirement into the draft (if I can do it in time
for Chris to send pub request) [4]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/04/25-ws-arch-irc#T20-11-25
ACTION: Hugo to fix typo in Zulah's name [5]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2002/04/25-ws-arch-irc#T20-13-28

There are no outstanding action items.

5. Status

- F2F update (logistics update[6])
The hotel info page is up. The registration page should be up by Monday.
- WS-CG report (Chris)
Semantic web working group will review and send comments on SOAP 1.2 to XMLP.
Want WSAWG to review WSDWG requirements doc. Need to find some volunteers.
Reviewed f2f losgistics arrangements.
- Editors
Thanks to the editors for hard work in getting draft of requirements out.
David Orchard has made a first draft of scenarios document available. People should review.
Daniel published an editors' todo list--separate editorial and substantive comments.
Team formed. Will establish weekly telecons. WSDWG discussed how they could participate
and will ask to have some people on the task force.
- Issues
Each week will go through a brief update of issues.
Deal with 2 formal issues "a priori" and "should soap envelope include target uri" via
email. WG is highly encouraged to discuss. Hopefully "champions" will emerge to take
ownership. If no one volunteers, Chris may randomly pick YOUR name. :-) 5a. November f2f Chris reported that he hadn't heard a lot of dissent to the proposed dates. No objections voiced, so the november f2f will be nov 13-15 (WSDWG will be Nov 11-13). Location not yet set. Will be on east coast. Possibilities include washington DC, ottowa, boston. Several companies have volunteered. 6. Balloting process review Review of balloting process[4] for strawpoll of draft status items in Requirenments document[5]. Are we all clear on what is expected? Chris reviewed process for voting on accepting draft requirements. For each issue Y means yes you agree; D (w/ your comment) means you disagree; L (w/ optional comments) means agree, but would prefer a minor change. (The resend mail was to point out that the top level number was incorrect.) To respond: EACH individual item requires its OWN individual email repsonse with the subject as specified in the instructions. Send the emails (one per item) to member-wsa-ballots@w3.org. (You can look at the
mail archive.)
Chris will sort and count the results by email subject line.

Is two days per block adequate time?
Discussion about various options. Chris will send out ballots every 2 days, people will
have 3 days to respond.

The first (security) ballot due date extended until fri 3 May 2002 COB.

Note: you can vote "early" if you like.

7. Schedule

Chris discussed the proposed detailed schedule [7].

David expressed concern that the schedule is very tight and aggressive.
Chris said that if we want to be in position to recommend creation of new WGs to the
November AC meeting we have to meet this schedule.

Hugo asked what the proposals for new WGS would be based upon. Chris said:
a. draft requirements doc
b. scenarios
Proposals would essentially be the scope sections for new charters.

David Orchard pointed out that there won't be "an architecture" in place before we consider
recommending new WGs. May need flexibility to "adjust" the new groups' charters if we
later discover that we got something wrong.

No objections to posting this schedule for review on our member page provided that we
surround it by the appropriate caveats that this is a target schedule.
We will review comments on the posted schedule next week.

8. Issues processing document

Document is PRIMARILY for benefit of issues submitted from outside the group, either
from other W3C sources or the public. Need to track our responses so that we can later
show that we adequately dealt with the issues raised by the public.
Note: Members of the WG MAY also submit a formal issue if they feel it is necessary to
create a formal issues record. But we don't want the formal issues list to turn into
a todo list. In most cases, the normal working process of the group should be adequate.

Call ended a few minutes early. Have a nice weekend.

New action items

ACTION: ChrisF to send schedule proposal to WG

ACTION: ChrisF: Notify description WG that the week of 11-15 is fine for f2f

ACTION: DavidB: Post f2f registration page by Monday

ACTION: Mike and Daniel: Generate report on Web Description WG requirements
document in two week's time

[1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/arch/admin#communication [2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/arch/2/04/25-minutes [3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/arch/2/04/25-minutes#new-ai [4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-arch/2002Apr/0122.html [5] http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-wsa-reqs-20020429 [6] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/04/f2fJuneLogistics.html [7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-arch/2002May/0017.html

Apple Mike Brumbelow
AT&T Ayse Dilber
BEA Systems David Orchard
Boeing Company Gerald Edgar
Carnegie Mellon University Katia Sycara
Cisco Systems Inc Sandeep Kumar
Compaq Yin-Leng Husband
Compaq Kevin Perkins
Computer Associates Igor Sedukhin
Contivo Dave Hollander
DaimlerChrysler Research Hans-Peter Steiert
Documentum Don Robertson
EDS Mike Ballantyne
Ericsson Nilo Mitra
Exodus/Digital Island Joseph Hui
France Telecom Shishir Garg
Hewlett-Packard Company Zulah Eckert
Intel Corporation Sharad Garg
Intel Corporation Joel Munter
IONA Eric Newcomer
Ipedo Srinivas Pandrangi
Ipedo Alex Cheng
Macromedia Glen Daniels
MartSoft Corp. Jin Yu
Microsoft Corporation Henrik Nielsen
Nokia Michael Mahan
Nortel Networks Abbie Barbir
Oracle Corporation Jeff Mischkinsky
Planetfred, Inc. Mark Baker
SAP Sinisa Zimek
SeeBeyond Technology Corp Alan Davies
Sterling Commerce(SBC) Suresh Damodaran
Sun Microsystems, Inc. Chris Ferris
Sun Microsystems, Inc. Doug Bunting
Systinet Anne Thomas Manes
TIBCO Software, Inc. Scott Vorthmann
T-Nova Deutsche Telekom Jens Meinkoehn
W. W. Grainger, Inc. Tom Carroll
W. W. Grainger, Inc. Daniel Austin
W3C Hugo Haas
W3C David Booth
Waveset Technologies Darran Rolls
AT&T Mark Jones
ChevronTexaco Roger Cutler
CrossWeave, Inc. Timothy Jones
EDS Waqar Sadiq
IBM Heather Kreger
IONA Steve Vinoski
Microsoft Corporation Allen Brown
Sun Microsystems, Inc. Mark Hapner
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Intalio Inc Bob Lojek
Artesia Technologies Dipto Chakravarty
Cisco Systems Inc Krishna Sankar
DaimlerChrysler Research Mario Jeckle
DISA Marcel Jemio
IBM Jim Knutson
Macromedia Tom Jordahl
MartSoft Corp. Jun Chen
MITRE Corporation James Davenport
MITRE Corporation Paul Denning
Rogue Wave Software Patrick Thompson
Rogue Wave Software David Noor
Software AG Michael Champion
Software AG Nigel Hutchison
The Thomson Corporation Hao He
VeriSign, Inc. Michael Mealling
webMethods, Inc. Prasad Yendluri
XQRL Inc. Tom Bradford
XQRL Inc. Daniela Florescu