15:46:27 RRSAgent has joined #webont 15:47:20 DanCon has changed the topic to: WebOnt 14Nov. chair: JimH; scribe: JeremyC 15:47:28 agenda + 14Nov http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0183.html 16:00:03 logger has joined #webont 16:28:04 Massimo has joined #webont 16:40:23 baget has joined #webont 16:49:32 jhendler has joined #webont 16:53:25 a new proposal, 16:53:31 do imports like fortran does, 16:53:35 jeff and dan both hate. 16:53:43 (another haiku for today :->) 16:54:37 hoot! 16:56:29 sbp has ruined me for life - I can only chair a WG 3 sentences at a time (and with the syllables restricted!) 16:58:58 SW_WebOnt()12:00PM has now started 16:59:05 + +1.408.732.aaaa 16:59:09 ora has joined #webont 16:59:49 +??P1 16:59:51 - +1.408.732.aaaa 16:59:52 + +1.408.732.aaaa 17:00:32 +Ora_Lassila 17:00:52 +DanC 17:01:04 pfps has joined #webont 17:01:06 +??P3 17:01:18 +NickG 17:01:19 +??P4 17:01:33 Zakim, ??P4 is LarryE 17:01:35 +LarryE; got it 17:01:35 +??P10 17:01:36 +??P7 17:01:37 +M_Smith 17:01:39 +Evan_Wallace 17:01:42 zakim, ??p1 is pfps 17:01:44 +Pfps; got it 17:01:47 Zakim, ??P3 is JeffH 17:01:48 +JeffH; got it 17:01:57 Zakim, ??P7 is RudigerK 17:01:58 +RudigerK; got it 17:02:03 Zakim, who's on the phone? 17:02:04 On the phone I see +1.408.732.aaaa, Pfps, Ora_Lassila, DanC, JeffH, LarryE, NickG, RudigerK, M_Smith, ??P10, Evan_Wallace 17:02:08 +??P11 17:02:11 zakim, Ora_Lassila is ora 17:02:12 +Ora; got it 17:02:15 Zakim, aaaa is JonathanD 17:02:16 +JonathanD; got it 17:02:29 Zakim, ??P11 is HermanT 17:02:29 +??P12 17:02:30 +HermanT; got it 17:02:42 Zakim, ??P12 is JeromeE 17:02:44 +JeromeE; got it 17:02:46 Zakim, who is on the phone? 17:02:48 On the phone I see JonathanD, Pfps, Ora, DanC, JeffH, LarryE, NickG, RudigerK, M_Smith, ??P10, Evan_Wallace, HermanT, JeromeE 17:03:01 hth has joined #webont 17:03:33 +Jim_Hendler 17:03:39 Zakim, ??P10 is JohnS 17:03:40 +JohnS; got it 17:03:46 +??P14 17:03:54 Zakim, ??P14 is IanH 17:03:56 +IanH; got it 17:04:02 Zakim, who is on the phone? 17:04:04 On the phone I see JonathanD, Pfps, Ora, DanC, JeffH, LarryE, NickG, RudigerK, M_Smith, JohnS, Evan_Wallace, HermanT, JeromeE, Jim_Hendler, IanH 17:04:32 agenda? 17:04:37 zakim, pick a scribe 17:04:39 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose RudigerK 17:04:44 Zakim, what is the passcode? 17:04:45 the conference code is 9326, Massimo 17:05:01 +Massimo 17:05:23 Rudiger agrees to scribe 17:05:52 Zakim, who's on the phone? 17:05:53 On the phone I see JonathanD, Pfps, Ora, DanC, JeffH, LarryE, NickG, RudigerK, M_Smith, JohnS, Evan_Wallace, HermanT, JeromeE, Jim_Hendler, IanH, Massimo 17:06:38 regrets, see WOWG archive 17:07:27 I 2nd proposal to approve 7Nov http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0157.html 17:08:26 danC wants to note about LC dependencies 17:09:17 regrets from Connolly/AC etc. 17:09:21 zakim, pick a scribe 17:09:21 ... obrst, OMG 17:09:23 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Jim_Hendler 17:09:34 regrets from Massimo too, I'll be flying off Boston 17:09:44 ChrisW has joined #webont 17:09:51 Logger, pointer? 17:09:52 See http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/webont/2002-11-14#T17-09-51 17:09:57 RRSAgent, pointer? 17:09:57 See http://www.w3.org/2002/11/14-webont-irc#T17-09-57 17:10:17 +[IBM] 17:10:35 zakim, [IBM] is ChrisW 17:10:37 +ChrisW; got it 17:10:52 +??P17 17:11:16 Zakim, ??P17 is JeremyC 17:11:17 +JeremyC; got it 17:11:26 DanCon has changed the topic to: WebOnt 14Nov. chair: JimH; scribe: RudigerK 17:12:33 Ian suggests Travel Inn 17:12:41 "# Travel Inn (Manchester City Centre)" -- http://wonderweb.semanticweb.org/mcr-f2f.shtml <- http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/#Current 17:13:23 +??P18 17:13:39 zakim, ??p18 is guus 17:13:41 +Guus; got it 17:13:51 jjc has joined #webont 17:15:09 guus has joined #webont 17:15:56 nmg has joined #webont 17:16:07 zakim, mute Jim_Hendler 17:16:08 Jim_Hendler should now be muted 17:18:26 zakim, unmute Jim_Hendler 17:18:28 Jim_Hendler should no longer be muted 17:20:21 how do I know if my rep has voted? 17:20:35 ChrisW has joined #webont 17:20:38 grrrr 17:25:09 +??P19 17:25:56 zakim, ??p19 marwan 17:25:58 I don't understand '??p19 marwan', jhendler 17:26:06 zakim, ??p19 is marwan 17:26:08 +Marwan; got it 17:27:35 dan, how can I verify if my rep has voted? 17:27:40 (on the extension) 17:28:11 er... you can only do that manually, thru me, jim, or your AC rep. I think he has in the IBM case. 17:32:10 ChrisW has joined #webont 17:32:13 +??P20 17:32:30 Zakim, ??P20 is JonathanB 17:32:31 +JonathanB; got it 17:32:41 zakiim, ??p20 is jonathan 17:32:44 zakim, who is here 17:32:45 jhendler, you need to end that query with '?' 17:32:57 zakim, who is here? 17:32:58 On the phone I see JonathanD, Pfps, Ora, DanC, JeffH, LarryE, NickG, RudigerK, M_Smith, JohnS, Evan_Wallace, HermanT, JeromeE, Jim_Hendler, IanH, Massimo, ChrisW, JeremyC, Guus, 17:33:00 ... Marwan, JonathanB 17:33:02 On IRC I see ChrisW, nmg, guus, jjc, pfps, ora, jhendler, baget, Massimo, logger, RRSAgent, Zakim, DanCon 17:33:03 zakim, who is here? 17:33:04 On the phone I see JonathanD, Pfps, Ora, DanC, JeffH, LarryE, NickG, RudigerK, M_Smith, JohnS, Evan_Wallace, HermanT, JeromeE, Jim_Hendler, IanH, Massimo, ChrisW, JeremyC, Guus, 17:33:06 ... Marwan, JonathanB 17:33:07 On IRC I see ChrisW, nmg, guus, jjc, pfps, ora, jhendler, baget, Massimo, logger, RRSAgent, Zakim, DanCon 17:33:09 owl:Ontology issue http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0120.html 17:33:26 hth has joined #webont 17:34:01 Herman waves back to DanCon 17:37:43 My phone just went dead - Dan, please chair till I get back in 17:37:48 -Jim_Hendler 17:37:50 ok 17:38:35 +Jim_Hendler 17:39:09 jim are you back? 17:39:16 thx 17:39:34 ChrisW has joined #webont 17:48:58 http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-owl-semantics-20021108/ 17:49:22 http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-rdf-mt-20021112/ 17:49:41 (relevant docsuments for Issue 5.5) 17:50:16 jeremy, a hell of the work for this rdfcore round... hat off ;) 17:50:31 jim, Jeff has put specific stuff on the table; did you see his response to your proposal? 17:50:38 ChrisW has joined #webont 17:51:17 Jim's proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0184.html 17:52:34 jeff's proposal of 1Nov http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Nov/0004.html 17:54:46 Guus, I'd like to hear Jeff's preference as to how to close it, given that he's been doing the issue owner job. 17:54:59 OK, will ask him 17:57:53 Guus, I think you should put the question on Jeff's message of 1Nov 18:03:46 guus, I think it's time to put the question on Jeff's proposal of 1Nov. 18:05:11 ChrisW has joined #webont 18:06:05 there's only 2 against hefflin's proposal; doesn't seem worth web voting. but maybe it's worth the time. 18:11:19 ChrisW has joined #webont 18:14:42 -Jim_Hendler 18:15:02 my phone went dead - please hold vote 2-3 min while I call back in 18:15:46 +Jim_Hendler 18:18:36 ChrisW has joined #webont 18:20:07 peter has joined #webont 18:20:20 peter has left #webont 18:21:16 q+ 18:21:24 q+ 18:27:54 ack guus 18:30:28 -JeffH 18:30:50 -ChrisW 18:30:52 -Evan_Wallace 18:30:53 -Marwan 18:30:55 -JohnS 18:30:56 -JonathanD 18:30:58 -IanH 18:30:58 -Ora 18:30:58 -JeromeE 18:30:59 -LarryE 18:30:59 -NickG 18:31:00 -RudigerK 18:31:02 -Massimo 18:31:04 -Jim_Hendler 18:31:07 -HermanT 18:31:08 -M_Smith 18:31:11 ora has left #webont 18:31:16 -Guus 18:31:43 -Pfps 18:34:05 nmg has left #webont 18:55:00 -JeremyC 18:55:02 -JonathanB 18:55:04 -DanC 18:55:05 SW_WebOnt()12:00PM has ended 19:25:39 RRSAgent, pointer? 19:25:39 See http://www.w3.org/2002/11/14-webont-irc#T19-25-39 20:28:49 Zakim has left #webont 20:31:19 DanCon has left #webont