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Results of Questionnaire AUWG Survey for 24 January

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This questionnaire was open from 2011-01-14 to 2011-01-24.

9 answers have been received.

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  1. Proposal to replace A.2.2.2 and A.2.2.3
  2. Proposal re: B.1.1.2:
  3. Removing from B.2.3.1:
  4. Definition of alternative content
  5. Definition of author permission
  6. Definition of content (web content)
  7. Definition of content rendering
  8. Definition of content transformations
  9. Definition of default option
  10. Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)
  11. Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)
  12. Definition of Definition of recognized
  13. Definition of Definition of sequential keyboard navigation

1. Proposal to replace A.2.2.2 and A.2.2.3

Email reference: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0013.html

Proposal to replace A.2.2.2 and A.2.2.3 with:

A.2.2.2 Access to Rendered Text Properties: If a text property is both rendered and editable by an editing-view and the property can be communicated by the supported platform accessibility service, then the property can be programmatically determined. (Level A)

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept the proposal 7
Recommend changes (see comments field) 1
The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) 1
Disagree with the proposal
Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group

Details

Responder Proposal to replace A.2.2.2 and A.2.2.3 Comments on A.2.2.2
Roberto Scano Accept the proposal
Jan Richards Accept the proposal
Frederick Boland Accept the proposal
Alessandro Miele Accept the proposal
Jutta Treviranus Accept the proposal
Sueann Nichols Accept the proposal
Greg Pisocky The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) If we mean that any dialogs that are available for manipulating these properties are to be accessible then I can accept the proposal. If however this proposal is meant to mean "locate all of the items in bold text" then I disagree.
Alastair Campbell Recommend changes (see comments field) It seems correct, but quite long. Perhaps we could drop the "by an editing view", as if it is editable, it is by-definition an editing view.

A.2.2.2 Access to Rendered Text Properties: If a text property is both rendered and editable, and the property can be communicated by the supported platform accessibility service, then the property can be programmatically determined. (Level A)
Cherie Ekholm Accept the proposal

2. Proposal re: B.1.1.2:

Email reference: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0014.html

Proposal re: B.1.1.2: clarifying (c) and (d) as follows:

(c) Automatic Checking: After the automatic generation process, accessibility checking is automatically performed; or
(d) Checking Suggested: After the automatic generation process, the authoring tool prompts authors to perform accessibility checking.

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept the proposal 9
Recommend changes (see comments field)
The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field)
Disagree with the proposal
Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group

Details

Responder Proposal re: B.1.1.2:Comments on B.1.1.2
Roberto Scano Accept the proposal
Jan Richards Accept the proposal
Frederick Boland Accept the proposal
Alessandro Miele Accept the proposal
Jutta Treviranus Accept the proposal
Sueann Nichols Accept the proposal
Greg Pisocky Accept the proposal
Alastair Campbell Accept the proposal
Cherie Ekholm Accept the proposal

3. Removing from B.2.3.1:

Email reference: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0015.html

Removing from B.2.3.1:

@@"including types of alternative content that may not typically be displayed on screen by user agents" - text is unnecessary

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept the proposal 7
Recommend changes (see comments field)
The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field)
Disagree with the proposal
Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group 2

Details

Responder Removing from B.2.3.1: Comments on B.2.3.1:
Roberto Scano Accept the proposal
Jan Richards Accept the proposal
Frederick Boland Accept the proposal
Alessandro Miele Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group
Jutta Treviranus Accept the proposal
Sueann Nichols Accept the proposal
Greg Pisocky Accept the proposal
Alastair Campbell Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group
Cherie Ekholm Accept the proposal

4. Definition of alternative content

Definition of alternative content

New Definition

Old Definition

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept the proposal 9
Recommend changes (see comments field)
The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field)
Disagree with the proposal
Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group

Details

Responder Definition of alternative contentComments on Alternative Content
Roberto Scano Accept the proposal
Jan Richards Accept the proposal
Frederick Boland Accept the proposal
Alessandro Miele Accept the proposal
Jutta Treviranus Accept the proposal
Sueann Nichols Accept the proposal
Greg Pisocky Accept the proposal Accept the proposal correct the grammar. Web content that is used in place of other content that some people are not be <delete "be"> able to access. Alternative content fulfills essentially the same function or purpose as the original content. WCAG 2.0 recognizes several general types of alternative content (for more information see WCAG 2.0):
Alastair Campbell Accept the proposal
Cherie Ekholm Accept the proposal

5. Definition of author permission

Definition of author permission

New Definition

Old Definition

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept the proposal 7
Recommend changes (see comments field) 1
The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) 1
Disagree with the proposal
Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group

Details

Responder Definition of author permissionComments onDefinition of author permission
Roberto Scano Accept the proposal
Jan Richards Accept the proposal
Frederick Boland Accept the proposal
Alessandro Miele Accept the proposal
Jutta Treviranus Recommend changes (see comments field) having the right may not mean they have the permission - should we replace "right" with "authorization" which carries with it the implication of administrative ability?
Sueann Nichols Accept the proposal
Greg Pisocky Accept the proposal
Alastair Campbell Accept the proposal
Cherie Ekholm The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) I think the wording here leaves a lot to be desired. The definition essentially is using itself to define itself. I can't at the moment come up with a good alternative but will try to come up with some thing by the meeting.

6. Definition of content (web content)

Definition of content (web content)

New Definition

Old Definition

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept the proposal 6
Recommend changes (see comments field)
The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) 1
Disagree with the proposal
Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group 2

Details

Responder Definition of content (web content)Comments on Definition of content (web content)
Roberto Scano Accept the proposal
Jan Richards Accept the proposal
Frederick Boland Accept the proposal
Alessandro Miele Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group
Jutta Treviranus Accept the proposal
Sueann Nichols Accept the proposal
Greg Pisocky Accept the proposal
Alastair Campbell Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group NB: The links are identical, and the 'previous version' link at the top links to the current version, so I can't find the old version.
Cherie Ekholm The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) I'm not seeing any difference between the two definitions. What exactly is the difference supposed to be?

7. Definition of content rendering

Definition of content rendering

New Definition

Old Definition

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept the proposal 7
Recommend changes (see comments field) 2
The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field)
Disagree with the proposal
Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group

Details

Responder Definition of content renderingComments on Definition of content rendering
Roberto Scano Accept the proposal
Jan Richards Accept the proposal
Frederick Boland Accept the proposal
Alessandro Miele Accept the proposal
Jutta Treviranus Recommend changes (see comments field) grammar edits are needed
Sueann Nichols Accept the proposal
Greg Pisocky Accept the proposal
Alastair Campbell Accept the proposal Do we need to cover text based renderings? E.g. wiki syntax. If so, I would call it out specifically (within 'unconventional' perhaps?). If not, nevermind.
Cherie Ekholm Recommend changes (see comments field) "user agents" should be "user agent".

8. Definition of content transformations

Definition of content transformations

New Definition

Old Definition

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept the proposal 8
Recommend changes (see comments field) 1
The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field)
Disagree with the proposal
Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group

Details

Responder Definition of content transformationsComments on Definition of content transformations
Roberto Scano Accept the proposal
Jan Richards Accept the proposal
Frederick Boland Accept the proposal
Alessandro Miele Accept the proposal
Jutta Treviranus Accept the proposal
Sueann Nichols Accept the proposal
Greg Pisocky Accept the proposal
Alastair Campbell Accept the proposal
Cherie Ekholm Recommend changes (see comments field) The grammar needs to be cleaned up. Also, the definition of all of these content-related terms begin to be really circular when the word "content" is used repeatedly in the definition itself. They read very awkwardly. This was was particularly difficult to read.

9. Definition of default option

Definition of default option

New Definition

no prior definition

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept the proposal 7
Recommend changes (see comments field)
The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) 1
Disagree with the proposal 1
Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group

Details

Responder Definition of default optionComments on Definition of default option
Roberto Scano Accept the proposal
Jan Richards Accept the proposal
Frederick Boland Accept the proposal
Alessandro Miele Accept the proposal
Jutta Treviranus Accept the proposal
Sueann Nichols Accept the proposal
Greg Pisocky Disagree with the proposal Shouldn't use a term within the definition the term is attempting to define.

default option: When an option is set to be on by default.

Recommend:

A setting or value for an option that is assigned automatically by the authoring tool and remains in effect unless canceled or changed by the author.
Alastair Campbell Accept the proposal
Cherie Ekholm The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) Here the word "default" is used to define itself even more so than was done in the content definitions with the word "content". This effectively leaves the term undefined.

10. Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)

Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)

New Definition

Old Definition

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept the proposal 5
Recommend changes (see comments field) 2
The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field)
Disagree with the proposal
Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group 1

(1 response didn't contain an answer to this question)

Details

Responder Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)Comments on Definition of programmatically determined
Roberto Scano Accept the proposal
Jan Richards Accept the proposal
Frederick Boland Accept the proposal
Alessandro Miele Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group
Jutta Treviranus Recommend changes (see comments field) requires grammar edits
Sueann Nichols Accept the proposal
Greg Pisocky Accept the proposal
Alastair Campbell Recommend changes (see comments field) I'd suggest some minor changes for clarity:

ATAG 2.0 uses this term is used in two contexts:

- Processing content: Is the authoring tool able to extract the language of content from the markup.

- Communication between the authoring tool and assistive technology: For non-web-based user interfaces, this means making use of a platform accessibility services, general-purpose APIs, and in some cases document object models. For web-based user interfaces, this means following WCAG 2.0 so that the user agent can pass on the information.

However, the first bullet implies that it is specific to (human) language, is that the intent?
Cherie Ekholm

11. Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)

Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)

New Definition

Old Definition

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept the proposal 2
Recommend changes (see comments field)
The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) 1
Disagree with the proposal
Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group 3

(3 responses didn't contain an answer to this question)

Details

Responder Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)Comments on Definition of programmatically determined
Roberto Scano Accept the proposal
Jan Richards Duplicate question
Frederick Boland Accept the proposal
Alessandro Miele Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group
Jutta Treviranus Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group Is this a repeat of 10 above?
Sueann Nichols
Greg Pisocky The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) Is 11 the same as 10?
Alastair Campbell Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group
Cherie Ekholm

12. Definition of Definition of recognized

Definition of recognized (by the authoring tool)

REMOVE

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept the proposal 8
Recommend changes (see comments field)
The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field)
Disagree with the proposal
Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group

(1 response didn't contain an answer to this question)

Details

Responder Definition of Definition of recognizedComments on Definition of recognized
Roberto Scano Accept the proposal
Jan Richards Accept the proposal
Frederick Boland Accept the proposal
Alessandro Miele Accept the proposal
Jutta Treviranus Accept the proposal
Sueann Nichols Accept the proposal
Greg Pisocky Accept the proposal
Alastair Campbell Accept the proposal Assuming that we don't use that term in the main text, I couldn't find an instance.
Cherie Ekholm

13. Definition of Definition of sequential keyboard navigation

Definition of sequential keyboard navigation (by the authoring tool)

REMOVE

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept the proposal 6
Recommend changes (see comments field) 1
The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field)
Disagree with the proposal
Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group 1

(1 response didn't contain an answer to this question)

Details

Responder Definition of Definition of sequential keyboard navigationComments on Definition of sequential keyboard navigation
Roberto Scano Accept the proposal
Jan Richards Recommend changes (see comments field) The question is wrong. This is a NEW proposed definition.
Frederick Boland Accept the proposal
Alessandro Miele Accept the proposal
Jutta Treviranus Accept the proposal
Sueann Nichols Accept the proposal
Greg Pisocky Accept the proposal
Alastair Campbell Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group We still use the term in A.3.1.3 Efficient Keyboard Access, would we need to expand on that in the SC if this is removed?
Cherie Ekholm

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Non-responders

The following persons have not answered the questionnaire:

  1. Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com>
  2. Andrew Ronksley <andrew.ronksley@rnib.org.uk>
  3. Jeanne F Spellman <jeanne@w3.org>
  4. Alex Li <alli@microsoft.com>
  5. Alexandre Morgaut <alexandre.morgaut@4d.com>
  6. Jean-Bernard Piot <jean-bernard.piot@4d.com>
  7. Tom Babinszki <tbabins@us.ibm.com>

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