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Results of Questionnaire AUWG Survey for 24 January
The results of this questionnaire are available to anybody.
This questionnaire was open from 2011-01-14 to 2011-01-24.
9 answers have been received.
Jump to results for question:
- Proposal to replace A.2.2.2 and A.2.2.3
- Proposal re: B.1.1.2:
- Removing from B.2.3.1:
- Definition of alternative content
- Definition of author permission
- Definition of content (web content)
- Definition of content rendering
- Definition of content transformations
- Definition of default option
- Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)
- Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)
- Definition of Definition of recognized
- Definition of Definition of sequential keyboard navigation
1. Proposal to replace A.2.2.2 and A.2.2.3
Email reference: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0013.html
Proposal to replace A.2.2.2 and A.2.2.3 with:
A.2.2.2 Access to Rendered Text Properties: If a text property is both rendered and editable by an editing-view and the property can be communicated by the supported platform accessibility service, then the property can be programmatically determined. (Level A)
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
|---|---|
| Results | |
| Accept the proposal | 7 |
| Recommend changes (see comments field) | 1 |
| The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | 1 |
| Disagree with the proposal | |
| Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group |
Details
| Responder | Proposal to replace A.2.2.2 and A.2.2.3 | Comments on A.2.2.2 |
|---|---|---|
| Roberto Scano | Accept the proposal | |
| Jan Richards | Accept the proposal | |
| Frederick Boland | Accept the proposal | |
| Alessandro Miele | Accept the proposal | |
| Jutta Treviranus | Accept the proposal | |
| Sueann Nichols | Accept the proposal | |
| Greg Pisocky | The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | If we mean that any dialogs that are available for manipulating these properties are to be accessible then I can accept the proposal. If however this proposal is meant to mean "locate all of the items in bold text" then I disagree. |
| Alastair Campbell | Recommend changes (see comments field) | It seems correct, but quite long. Perhaps we could drop the "by an editing view", as if it is editable, it is by-definition an editing view. A.2.2.2 Access to Rendered Text Properties: If a text property is both rendered and editable, and the property can be communicated by the supported platform accessibility service, then the property can be programmatically determined. (Level A) |
| Cherie Ekholm | Accept the proposal |
2. Proposal re: B.1.1.2:
Email reference: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0014.html
Proposal re: B.1.1.2: clarifying (c) and (d) as follows:
(c) Automatic Checking: After the automatic generation process, accessibility checking is automatically performed; or
(d) Checking Suggested: After the automatic generation process, the authoring tool prompts authors to perform accessibility checking.
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
|---|---|
| Results | |
| Accept the proposal | 9 |
| Recommend changes (see comments field) | |
| The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | |
| Disagree with the proposal | |
| Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group |
Details
| Responder | Proposal re: B.1.1.2: | Comments on B.1.1.2 |
|---|---|---|
| Roberto Scano | Accept the proposal | |
| Jan Richards | Accept the proposal | |
| Frederick Boland | Accept the proposal | |
| Alessandro Miele | Accept the proposal | |
| Jutta Treviranus | Accept the proposal | |
| Sueann Nichols | Accept the proposal | |
| Greg Pisocky | Accept the proposal | |
| Alastair Campbell | Accept the proposal | |
| Cherie Ekholm | Accept the proposal |
3. Removing from B.2.3.1:
Email reference: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0015.html
Removing from B.2.3.1:
@@"including types of alternative content that may not typically be displayed on screen by user agents" - text is unnecessary
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
|---|---|
| Results | |
| Accept the proposal | 7 |
| Recommend changes (see comments field) | |
| The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | |
| Disagree with the proposal | |
| Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group | 2 |
Details
| Responder | Removing from B.2.3.1: | Comments on B.2.3.1: |
|---|---|---|
| Roberto Scano | Accept the proposal | |
| Jan Richards | Accept the proposal | |
| Frederick Boland | Accept the proposal | |
| Alessandro Miele | Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group | |
| Jutta Treviranus | Accept the proposal | |
| Sueann Nichols | Accept the proposal | |
| Greg Pisocky | Accept the proposal | |
| Alastair Campbell | Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group | |
| Cherie Ekholm | Accept the proposal |
4. Definition of alternative content
Definition of alternative content
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
|---|---|
| Results | |
| Accept the proposal | 9 |
| Recommend changes (see comments field) | |
| The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | |
| Disagree with the proposal | |
| Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group |
Details
| Responder | Definition of alternative content | Comments on Alternative Content |
|---|---|---|
| Roberto Scano | Accept the proposal | |
| Jan Richards | Accept the proposal | |
| Frederick Boland | Accept the proposal | |
| Alessandro Miele | Accept the proposal | |
| Jutta Treviranus | Accept the proposal | |
| Sueann Nichols | Accept the proposal | |
| Greg Pisocky | Accept the proposal | Accept the proposal correct the grammar. Web content that is used in place of other content that some people are not be <delete "be"> able to access. Alternative content fulfills essentially the same function or purpose as the original content. WCAG 2.0 recognizes several general types of alternative content (for more information see WCAG 2.0): |
| Alastair Campbell | Accept the proposal | |
| Cherie Ekholm | Accept the proposal |
5. Definition of author permission
Definition of author permission
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
|---|---|
| Results | |
| Accept the proposal | 7 |
| Recommend changes (see comments field) | 1 |
| The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | 1 |
| Disagree with the proposal | |
| Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group |
Details
| Responder | Definition of author permission | Comments onDefinition of author permission |
|---|---|---|
| Roberto Scano | Accept the proposal | |
| Jan Richards | Accept the proposal | |
| Frederick Boland | Accept the proposal | |
| Alessandro Miele | Accept the proposal | |
| Jutta Treviranus | Recommend changes (see comments field) | having the right may not mean they have the permission - should we replace "right" with "authorization" which carries with it the implication of administrative ability? |
| Sueann Nichols | Accept the proposal | |
| Greg Pisocky | Accept the proposal | |
| Alastair Campbell | Accept the proposal | |
| Cherie Ekholm | The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | I think the wording here leaves a lot to be desired. The definition essentially is using itself to define itself. I can't at the moment come up with a good alternative but will try to come up with some thing by the meeting. |
6. Definition of content (web content)
Definition of content (web content)
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
|---|---|
| Results | |
| Accept the proposal | 6 |
| Recommend changes (see comments field) | |
| The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | 1 |
| Disagree with the proposal | |
| Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group | 2 |
Details
| Responder | Definition of content (web content) | Comments on Definition of content (web content) |
|---|---|---|
| Roberto Scano | Accept the proposal | |
| Jan Richards | Accept the proposal | |
| Frederick Boland | Accept the proposal | |
| Alessandro Miele | Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group | |
| Jutta Treviranus | Accept the proposal | |
| Sueann Nichols | Accept the proposal | |
| Greg Pisocky | Accept the proposal | |
| Alastair Campbell | Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group | NB: The links are identical, and the 'previous version' link at the top links to the current version, so I can't find the old version. |
| Cherie Ekholm | The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | I'm not seeing any difference between the two definitions. What exactly is the difference supposed to be? |
7. Definition of content rendering
Definition of content rendering
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
|---|---|
| Results | |
| Accept the proposal | 7 |
| Recommend changes (see comments field) | 2 |
| The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | |
| Disagree with the proposal | |
| Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group |
Details
| Responder | Definition of content rendering | Comments on Definition of content rendering |
|---|---|---|
| Roberto Scano | Accept the proposal | |
| Jan Richards | Accept the proposal | |
| Frederick Boland | Accept the proposal | |
| Alessandro Miele | Accept the proposal | |
| Jutta Treviranus | Recommend changes (see comments field) | grammar edits are needed |
| Sueann Nichols | Accept the proposal | |
| Greg Pisocky | Accept the proposal | |
| Alastair Campbell | Accept the proposal | Do we need to cover text based renderings? E.g. wiki syntax. If so, I would call it out specifically (within 'unconventional' perhaps?). If not, nevermind. |
| Cherie Ekholm | Recommend changes (see comments field) | "user agents" should be "user agent". |
8. Definition of content transformations
Definition of content transformations
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
|---|---|
| Results | |
| Accept the proposal | 8 |
| Recommend changes (see comments field) | 1 |
| The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | |
| Disagree with the proposal | |
| Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group |
Details
| Responder | Definition of content transformations | Comments on Definition of content transformations |
|---|---|---|
| Roberto Scano | Accept the proposal | |
| Jan Richards | Accept the proposal | |
| Frederick Boland | Accept the proposal | |
| Alessandro Miele | Accept the proposal | |
| Jutta Treviranus | Accept the proposal | |
| Sueann Nichols | Accept the proposal | |
| Greg Pisocky | Accept the proposal | |
| Alastair Campbell | Accept the proposal | |
| Cherie Ekholm | Recommend changes (see comments field) | The grammar needs to be cleaned up. Also, the definition of all of these content-related terms begin to be really circular when the word "content" is used repeatedly in the definition itself. They read very awkwardly. This was was particularly difficult to read. |
9. Definition of default option
Definition of default option
no prior definition
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
|---|---|
| Results | |
| Accept the proposal | 7 |
| Recommend changes (see comments field) | |
| The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | 1 |
| Disagree with the proposal | 1 |
| Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group |
Details
| Responder | Definition of default option | Comments on Definition of default option |
|---|---|---|
| Roberto Scano | Accept the proposal | |
| Jan Richards | Accept the proposal | |
| Frederick Boland | Accept the proposal | |
| Alessandro Miele | Accept the proposal | |
| Jutta Treviranus | Accept the proposal | |
| Sueann Nichols | Accept the proposal | |
| Greg Pisocky | Disagree with the proposal | Shouldn't use a term within the definition the term is attempting to define. default option: When an option is set to be on by default. Recommend: A setting or value for an option that is assigned automatically by the authoring tool and remains in effect unless canceled or changed by the author. |
| Alastair Campbell | Accept the proposal | |
| Cherie Ekholm | The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | Here the word "default" is used to define itself even more so than was done in the content definitions with the word "content". This effectively leaves the term undefined. |
10. Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)
Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
|---|---|
| Results | |
| Accept the proposal | 5 |
| Recommend changes (see comments field) | 2 |
| The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | |
| Disagree with the proposal | |
| Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group | 1 |
Details
| Responder | Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable) | Comments on Definition of programmatically determined |
|---|---|---|
| Roberto Scano | Accept the proposal | |
| Jan Richards | Accept the proposal | |
| Frederick Boland | Accept the proposal | |
| Alessandro Miele | Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group | |
| Jutta Treviranus | Recommend changes (see comments field) | requires grammar edits |
| Sueann Nichols | Accept the proposal | |
| Greg Pisocky | Accept the proposal | |
| Alastair Campbell | Recommend changes (see comments field) | I'd suggest some minor changes for clarity: ATAG 2.0 uses this term is used in two contexts: - Processing content: Is the authoring tool able to extract the language of content from the markup. - Communication between the authoring tool and assistive technology: For non-web-based user interfaces, this means making use of a platform accessibility services, general-purpose APIs, and in some cases document object models. For web-based user interfaces, this means following WCAG 2.0 so that the user agent can pass on the information. However, the first bullet implies that it is specific to (human) language, is that the intent? |
| Cherie Ekholm |
11. Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)
Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
|---|---|
| Results | |
| Accept the proposal | 2 |
| Recommend changes (see comments field) | |
| The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | 1 |
| Disagree with the proposal | |
| Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group | 3 |
Details
| Responder | Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable) | Comments on Definition of programmatically determined |
|---|---|---|
| Roberto Scano | Accept the proposal | |
| Jan Richards | Duplicate question | |
| Frederick Boland | Accept the proposal | |
| Alessandro Miele | Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group | |
| Jutta Treviranus | Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group | Is this a repeat of 10 above? |
| Sueann Nichols | ||
| Greg Pisocky | The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | Is 11 the same as 10? |
| Alastair Campbell | Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group | |
| Cherie Ekholm |
12. Definition of Definition of recognized
Definition of recognized (by the authoring tool)
REMOVE
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
|---|---|
| Results | |
| Accept the proposal | 8 |
| Recommend changes (see comments field) | |
| The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | |
| Disagree with the proposal | |
| Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group |
Details
| Responder | Definition of Definition of recognized | Comments on Definition of recognized |
|---|---|---|
| Roberto Scano | Accept the proposal | |
| Jan Richards | Accept the proposal | |
| Frederick Boland | Accept the proposal | |
| Alessandro Miele | Accept the proposal | |
| Jutta Treviranus | Accept the proposal | |
| Sueann Nichols | Accept the proposal | |
| Greg Pisocky | Accept the proposal | |
| Alastair Campbell | Accept the proposal | Assuming that we don't use that term in the main text, I couldn't find an instance. |
| Cherie Ekholm |
13. Definition of Definition of sequential keyboard navigation
Definition of sequential keyboard navigation (by the authoring tool)
REMOVE
Summary
| Choice | All responders |
|---|---|
| Results | |
| Accept the proposal | 6 |
| Recommend changes (see comments field) | 1 |
| The proposal needs more discussion (see comments field) | |
| Disagree with the proposal | |
| Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group | 1 |
Details
| Responder | Definition of Definition of sequential keyboard navigation | Comments on Definition of sequential keyboard navigation |
|---|---|---|
| Roberto Scano | Accept the proposal | |
| Jan Richards | Recommend changes (see comments field) | The question is wrong. This is a NEW proposed definition. |
| Frederick Boland | Accept the proposal | |
| Alessandro Miele | Accept the proposal | |
| Jutta Treviranus | Accept the proposal | |
| Sueann Nichols | Accept the proposal | |
| Greg Pisocky | Accept the proposal | |
| Alastair Campbell | Neutral - will accept the consensus of the group | We still use the term in A.3.1.3 Efficient Keyboard Access, would we need to expand on that in the SC if this is removed? |
| Cherie Ekholm |
More details on responses
- Roberto Scano: last responded on 16, January 2011 at 16:53 (UTC)
- Jan Richards: last responded on 17, January 2011 at 21:56 (UTC)
- Frederick Boland: last responded on 21, January 2011 at 16:17 (UTC)
- Alessandro Miele: last responded on 24, January 2011 at 11:19 (UTC)
- Jutta Treviranus: last responded on 24, January 2011 at 15:25 (UTC)
- Sueann Nichols: last responded on 24, January 2011 at 16:30 (UTC)
- Greg Pisocky: last responded on 24, January 2011 at 17:19 (UTC)
- Alastair Campbell: last responded on 24, January 2011 at 20:49 (UTC)
- Cherie Ekholm: last responded on 24, January 2011 at 20:57 (UTC)
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