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15:08:45 <DanCon> Zakim, this will be WebO
15:08:46 <Zakim> ok, DanCon
15:09:08 <DanCon> DanCon has changed the topic to: 6Jun WebOnt. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/
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15:56:56 <Zakim> +JHendler
15:58:42 <Zakim> +??P17
15:59:12 <jhendler> zakim, ??p17 is Guus
15:59:14 <Zakim> +Guus; got it
15:59:25 <Zakim> +John.Stanton
15:59:59 <Zakim> +??P24
16:00:22 <Zakim> + +1.484.892.aaaa
16:00:36 <Zakim> +??P8
16:00:44 <Zakim> +NickG
16:00:47 <Zakim> +MDean
16:00:57 <Zakim> +DanC
16:01:03 <Zakim> +??P11
16:01:07 <schreiber> regrest: McGuinness, Dale, Buswell, Hellman, Miller, Smith, Stein, Borden, Trastour
16:01:18 <Zakim> +??P20
16:01:18 <Zakim> +??P21
16:01:23 <jhendler> zakim, who is here?
16:01:24 <Zakim> I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, ??P24, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, ??P11, ??P20, ??P21
16:01:32 <Zakim> +Ian.Horrocks
16:01:55 <Zakim> +??P26
16:01:56 <DanCon> Zakim, ??P24 is perhaps PeterPS
16:01:56 <IanH> IanH has joined #webont
16:01:56 <Zakim> +PeterPS?; got it
16:02:01 <pfps> pfps has joined #webont
16:02:21 <DanCon> Zakim, ??P26 is NickG
16:02:22 <Zakim> +NickG; got it
16:02:29 <DanCon> Zakim, ??P24 is JeffH
16:02:31 <Zakim> sorry, DanCon, I do not recognize a party named '??P24'
16:02:37 <DanCon> Zakim, ??P11 is JeffH
16:02:39 <Zakim> +JeffH; got it
16:02:41 <DanCon> Zakim, who's here?
16:02:42 <Zakim> I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, ??P20, ??P21, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a
16:02:51 <DanCon> Zakim, ??P20 is JosD
16:02:53 <Zakim> +JosD; got it
16:02:55 <DanCon> Zakim, who's here?
16:02:57 <Zakim> I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, ??P21, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a
16:03:02 <jhendler> zakim, assign name to Person     (this one for Ralph)
16:03:03 <Zakim> I don't understand 'assign name to Person     (this one for Ralph)', jhendler.  Try /msg Zakim help
16:03:09 <Zakim> + +33.1.47.65.aabb
16:03:12 <Zakim> +??P28
16:03:30 <DanCon> Zakim, aabb is Laurent(sp?)
16:03:31 <Zakim> +Laurent(sp?); got it
16:03:36 <DanCon> Zakim, who's here?
16:03:37 <Zakim> I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, ??P21, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a, Laurent(sp?), ??P28
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16:03:51 <DanCon> Zakim, ??P21 is LarryE
16:03:52 <Zakim> +LarryE; got it
16:03:54 <DanCon> Zakim, who's here?
16:03:55 <raphael> Hi all -
16:03:55 <Zakim> I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, LarryE, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a, Laurent(sp?), ??P28
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16:04:24 <DanCon> Zakim, ??P28 is perhaps Terhorst
16:04:25 <Zakim> +Terhorst?; got it
16:04:34 <Zakim> +Massimo
16:04:41 <Zakim> +Evan.Wallace
16:04:53 <DanCon> Zakim, who's here?
16:04:54 <Zakim> I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, LarryE, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a, Laurent(sp?), Terhorst?, Massimo, Evan.Wallace
16:05:41 <DanCon> Zakim, NickG.a is perhaps FrankvH
16:05:43 <Zakim> +FrankvH?; got it
16:05:51 <DanCon> Zakim, ??P8 is perhaps RudigerK
16:05:52 <Zakim> +RudigerK?; got it
16:05:55 <DanCon> Zakim, who's here?
16:05:58 <Zakim> I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, RudigerK?, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, LarryE, Ian.Horrocks, FrankvH?, Laurent(sp?), Terhorst?, Massimo,
16:06:00 <Zakim> ... Evan.Wallace
16:06:25 <DanCon> Zakim, where is 484?
16:06:26 <Zakim> North American dialing code 1.484 is Pennsylvania
16:06:54 <DanCon> Zakim, pick a scribe
16:06:56 <Zakim> I don't understand 'pick a scribe', DanCon.  Try /msg Zakim help
16:08:22 <Zakim> + +1.845.451.aacc
16:08:30 <DanCon> Zakim, aacc is ChrisW
16:08:32 <Zakim> +ChrisW; got it
16:09:04 <jhendler> Chris Welty Scribe
16:11:31 <DanCon> who's "we"?
16:12:33 <jhendler> JimH will take an action to make that list
16:13:13 <DanCon> thx, jim
16:13:49 <nmg> RDFS review: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jun/0041.html
16:16:29 <DanCon> what message is Ian talking about?
16:16:39 <DanCon> ah... something offlist, I guess.
16:20:03 <Zakim> +??P2
16:20:41 <jhendler> Dancon - it was mail from terHorst to the list - I cannot pull it from archives at moment
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16:20:47 <IanH> No, I was talking about http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jun/0008.html
16:21:22 <IanH> Actually, reading it from the archive solves my problem :-)
16:21:31 <DanCon> quite ;)
16:22:38 <schreiber> zakim, ??P2 is TimFinin
16:22:39 <Zakim> +TimFinin; got it
16:25:22 <Massimo> Laurent?
16:25:41 <Massimo> (Amy spoke ;)
16:38:58 <IanH> Heavy breathing is getting worse!
16:42:04 <Zakim> -Guus
16:42:26 <Zakim> +??P4
16:43:26 <Massimo> Zakim, ??P4 is Guus
16:43:27 <Zakim> +Guus; got it
16:49:18 <Massimo> We don't do trust *now*, but we care about trust ;)
16:50:43 <DanCon> "It is expected that future languages will extend this one, adding, among other things, greater logical capabilities and the ability to establish trust on the Semantic Web."  -- http://www.w3.org/TR/webont-req/
16:51:11 <Massimo> yep, precisely, good catch
16:56:42 <DanCon> Zakim, mute laurent
16:56:43 <Zakim> Laurent(sp?) should now be muted
16:57:27 <DanCon> MIT admin suggested the breathing is coming from the port we called "Laurent". (note that when I did role, I wasn't sure who was really calling from which ports)
16:57:38 <DanCon> unumte laurentO
16:57:40 <DanCon> unumte laurent
16:57:42 <DanCon> Zakim,unumte laurent
16:57:52 <DanCon> Zakim, unmute laurent
16:57:53 <Zakim> Laurent(sp?) should no longer be muted
17:00:53 <DanCon> well played.
17:06:44 <pfps> q+
17:08:47 <DanCon> ack peter
17:08:52 <DanCon> ack pfps
17:11:47 <Zakim> -ChrisW
17:12:39 <jhendler> q+
17:13:03 <DanCon> IanH: (a) seems to me implementors can read a large documents and pick a piece (b) not an extension of RDF schema
17:13:10 <schreiber> ack Jhendler
17:13:17 <DanCon> ... but rather a subset of DAML+OIL/OWL
17:13:29 <DanCon> [... more discussion of readership, purpose, etc. ... ]
17:21:15 <DanCon> Guus: all that said, is it ok if, for now, the editors maintain the two document separately?
17:21:22 <DanCon> a few: yes.
17:21:36 <DanCon> ACTION Guus: to put status of named subset on the ftf agenda.
17:21:56 <DanCon> Guus: any further thoughts on the name?
17:22:23 <DanCon> Frank: "compliance level 1" remains a favorite among the editors. seems to match.
17:23:36 <DanCon> Guus: on to OWL reference... Mike Dean has volunteered to edit...
17:24:01 <DanCon> DanCon: likely to be available by 17Jun?
17:24:08 <DanCon> MikeD: I'll target that, but I can see various risks.
17:24:55 <DanCon> Massimo, do you know anything about net stuff in Sardenia?
17:25:09 <Massimo> AFAIK, no net connectivity
17:25:37 <Massimo> it's an hotel in the middle of nowhere, and I couldn't see anything on their web site
17:25:43 <DanCon> Guus: on to "Feature Synopsis of the OWL Ontology Language"... Peter, do you expect more changes?
17:25:52 <Massimo> but I can better check of you want
17:25:59 <jhendler> we (the conf) has arranged for some minimal connection - but details are still unclear
17:26:01 <DanCon> Peter: yes... some work in progress. Yes, I'll have something for the 17Jun ftf prep deadline.
17:26:10 <Massimo> my plan was to connect by telephone to the italian local provider there
17:26:22 <Massimo> (in necessity, as hotel calls might be expensive)
17:27:04 <DanCon> Guus: on to "A UML Presentation Syntax for OWL Lite"...
17:27:41 <DanCon> Peter: no movement... no reviews so far... I'd like some input from XML schema knowledgeable folks
17:27:53 <DanCon> ACTION  [who?]: review presentation syntax.
17:28:02 <DanCon> ACTION PFPS: send updated presentation syntax.
17:28:24 <DanCon> ACTION  RaphaelV: review presentation syntax.
17:28:39 <DanCon> ==== 6) Reponse to DT document from RDF Core/CG (5 min)
17:29:10 <DanCon> Guus: J. Borden sent it; the SemWeb CG discussed it at length without any particular conclusion, other than to note the RDF Core WG is likely to look at it at their ftf.
17:29:27 <DanCon> ==== scribe volunteer?
17:29:48 <DanCon> JeffH volunteers. (applause!)
17:30:12 <Zakim> -LarryE
17:30:12 <DanCon> ==== ADJOURN. till 13Jun.
17:30:15 <Zakim> -JosD
17:30:15 <Zakim> -JeffH
17:30:15 <Zakim> -Evan.Wallace
17:30:16 <Zakim> -Ian.Horrocks
17:30:17 <Zakim> - +1.484.892.aaaa
17:30:18 <Zakim> -TimFinin
17:30:19 <Zakim> -John.Stanton
17:30:22 <Zakim> -Laurent(sp?)
17:30:22 <Zakim> -NickG
17:30:25 <Zakim> -FrankvH?
17:30:26 <Zakim> -Terhorst?
17:30:29 <Zakim> -MDean
17:30:30 <Zakim> -Massimo
17:30:34 <Zakim> -PeterPS?
17:30:35 <Zakim> -RudigerK?
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17:32:32 <Zakim> -JHendler
17:32:34 <Zakim> -Guus
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