IRC log of webont on 2002-06-06

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15:08:45 [DanCon]
Zakim, this will be WebO
15:08:46 [Zakim]
ok, DanCon
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DanCon has changed the topic to: 6Jun WebOnt. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/
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SW_WebOnt()12:00PM has now started
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+JHendler
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+??P17
15:59:12 [jhendler]
zakim, ??p17 is Guus
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+Guus; got it
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+John.Stanton
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+??P24
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+ +1.484.892.aaaa
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+??P8
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+NickG
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+MDean
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+DanC
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+??P11
16:01:07 [schreiber]
regrest: McGuinness, Dale, Buswell, Hellman, Miller, Smith, Stein, Borden, Trastour
16:01:18 [Zakim]
+??P20
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+??P21
16:01:23 [jhendler]
zakim, who is here?
16:01:24 [Zakim]
I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, ??P24, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, ??P11, ??P20, ??P21
16:01:32 [Zakim]
+Ian.Horrocks
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+??P26
16:01:56 [DanCon]
Zakim, ??P24 is perhaps PeterPS
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+PeterPS?; got it
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16:02:21 [DanCon]
Zakim, ??P26 is NickG
16:02:22 [Zakim]
+NickG; got it
16:02:29 [DanCon]
Zakim, ??P24 is JeffH
16:02:31 [Zakim]
sorry, DanCon, I do not recognize a party named '??P24'
16:02:37 [DanCon]
Zakim, ??P11 is JeffH
16:02:39 [Zakim]
+JeffH; got it
16:02:41 [DanCon]
Zakim, who's here?
16:02:42 [Zakim]
I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, ??P20, ??P21, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a
16:02:51 [DanCon]
Zakim, ??P20 is JosD
16:02:53 [Zakim]
+JosD; got it
16:02:55 [DanCon]
Zakim, who's here?
16:02:57 [Zakim]
I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, ??P21, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a
16:03:02 [jhendler]
zakim, assign name to Person (this one for Ralph)
16:03:03 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'assign name to Person (this one for Ralph)', jhendler. Try /msg Zakim help
16:03:09 [Zakim]
+ +33.1.47.65.aabb
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+??P28
16:03:30 [DanCon]
Zakim, aabb is Laurent(sp?)
16:03:31 [Zakim]
+Laurent(sp?); got it
16:03:36 [DanCon]
Zakim, who's here?
16:03:37 [Zakim]
I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, ??P21, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a, Laurent(sp?), ??P28
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Zakim, ??P21 is LarryE
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+LarryE; got it
16:03:54 [DanCon]
Zakim, who's here?
16:03:55 [raphael]
Hi all -
16:03:55 [Zakim]
I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, LarryE, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a, Laurent(sp?), ??P28
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16:04:24 [DanCon]
Zakim, ??P28 is perhaps Terhorst
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+Terhorst?; got it
16:04:34 [Zakim]
+Massimo
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+Evan.Wallace
16:04:53 [DanCon]
Zakim, who's here?
16:04:54 [Zakim]
I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, LarryE, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a, Laurent(sp?), Terhorst?, Massimo, Evan.Wallace
16:05:41 [DanCon]
Zakim, NickG.a is perhaps FrankvH
16:05:43 [Zakim]
+FrankvH?; got it
16:05:51 [DanCon]
Zakim, ??P8 is perhaps RudigerK
16:05:52 [Zakim]
+RudigerK?; got it
16:05:55 [DanCon]
Zakim, who's here?
16:05:58 [Zakim]
I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, RudigerK?, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, LarryE, Ian.Horrocks, FrankvH?, Laurent(sp?), Terhorst?, Massimo,
16:06:00 [Zakim]
... Evan.Wallace
16:06:25 [DanCon]
Zakim, where is 484?
16:06:26 [Zakim]
North American dialing code 1.484 is Pennsylvania
16:06:54 [DanCon]
Zakim, pick a scribe
16:06:56 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'pick a scribe', DanCon. Try /msg Zakim help
16:08:22 [Zakim]
+ +1.845.451.aacc
16:08:30 [DanCon]
Zakim, aacc is ChrisW
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+ChrisW; got it
16:09:04 [jhendler]
Chris Welty Scribe
16:11:31 [DanCon]
who's "we"?
16:12:33 [jhendler]
JimH will take an action to make that list
16:13:13 [DanCon]
thx, jim
16:13:49 [nmg]
RDFS review: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jun/0041.html
16:16:29 [DanCon]
what message is Ian talking about?
16:16:39 [DanCon]
ah... something offlist, I guess.
16:20:03 [Zakim]
+??P2
16:20:41 [jhendler]
Dancon - it was mail from terHorst to the list - I cannot pull it from archives at moment
16:20:43 [timfinin]
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16:20:47 [IanH]
No, I was talking about http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jun/0008.html
16:21:22 [IanH]
Actually, reading it from the archive solves my problem :-)
16:21:31 [DanCon]
quite ;)
16:22:38 [schreiber]
zakim, ??P2 is TimFinin
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+TimFinin; got it
16:25:22 [Massimo]
Laurent?
16:25:41 [Massimo]
(Amy spoke ;)
16:38:58 [IanH]
Heavy breathing is getting worse!
16:42:04 [Zakim]
-Guus
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+??P4
16:43:26 [Massimo]
Zakim, ??P4 is Guus
16:43:27 [Zakim]
+Guus; got it
16:49:18 [Massimo]
We don't do trust *now*, but we care about trust ;)
16:50:43 [DanCon]
"It is expected that future languages will extend this one, adding, among other things, greater logical capabilities and the ability to establish trust on the Semantic Web." -- http://www.w3.org/TR/webont-req/
16:51:11 [Massimo]
yep, precisely, good catch
16:56:42 [DanCon]
Zakim, mute laurent
16:56:43 [Zakim]
Laurent(sp?) should now be muted
16:57:27 [DanCon]
MIT admin suggested the breathing is coming from the port we called "Laurent". (note that when I did role, I wasn't sure who was really calling from which ports)
16:57:38 [DanCon]
unumte laurentO
16:57:40 [DanCon]
unumte laurent
16:57:42 [DanCon]
Zakim,unumte laurent
16:57:52 [DanCon]
Zakim, unmute laurent
16:57:53 [Zakim]
Laurent(sp?) should no longer be muted
17:00:53 [DanCon]
well played.
17:06:44 [pfps]
q+
17:08:47 [DanCon]
ack peter
17:08:52 [DanCon]
ack pfps
17:11:47 [Zakim]
-ChrisW
17:12:39 [jhendler]
q+
17:13:03 [DanCon]
IanH: (a) seems to me implementors can read a large documents and pick a piece (b) not an extension of RDF schema
17:13:10 [schreiber]
ack Jhendler
17:13:17 [DanCon]
... but rather a subset of DAML+OIL/OWL
17:13:29 [DanCon]
[... more discussion of readership, purpose, etc. ... ]
17:21:15 [DanCon]
Guus: all that said, is it ok if, for now, the editors maintain the two document separately?
17:21:22 [DanCon]
a few: yes.
17:21:36 [DanCon]
ACTION Guus: to put status of named subset on the ftf agenda.
17:21:56 [DanCon]
Guus: any further thoughts on the name?
17:22:23 [DanCon]
Frank: "compliance level 1" remains a favorite among the editors. seems to match.
17:23:36 [DanCon]
Guus: on to OWL reference... Mike Dean has volunteered to edit...
17:24:01 [DanCon]
DanCon: likely to be available by 17Jun?
17:24:08 [DanCon]
MikeD: I'll target that, but I can see various risks.
17:24:55 [DanCon]
Massimo, do you know anything about net stuff in Sardenia?
17:25:09 [Massimo]
AFAIK, no net connectivity
17:25:37 [Massimo]
it's an hotel in the middle of nowhere, and I couldn't see anything on their web site
17:25:43 [DanCon]
Guus: on to "Feature Synopsis of the OWL Ontology Language"... Peter, do you expect more changes?
17:25:52 [Massimo]
but I can better check of you want
17:25:59 [jhendler]
we (the conf) has arranged for some minimal connection - but details are still unclear
17:26:01 [DanCon]
Peter: yes... some work in progress. Yes, I'll have something for the 17Jun ftf prep deadline.
17:26:10 [Massimo]
my plan was to connect by telephone to the italian local provider there
17:26:22 [Massimo]
(in necessity, as hotel calls might be expensive)
17:27:04 [DanCon]
Guus: on to "A UML Presentation Syntax for OWL Lite"...
17:27:41 [DanCon]
Peter: no movement... no reviews so far... I'd like some input from XML schema knowledgeable folks
17:27:53 [DanCon]
ACTION [who?]: review presentation syntax.
17:28:02 [DanCon]
ACTION PFPS: send updated presentation syntax.
17:28:24 [DanCon]
ACTION RaphaelV: review presentation syntax.
17:28:39 [DanCon]
==== 6) Reponse to DT document from RDF Core/CG (5 min)
17:29:10 [DanCon]
Guus: J. Borden sent it; the SemWeb CG discussed it at length without any particular conclusion, other than to note the RDF Core WG is likely to look at it at their ftf.
17:29:27 [DanCon]
==== scribe volunteer?
17:29:48 [DanCon]
JeffH volunteers. (applause!)
17:30:12 [Zakim]
-LarryE
17:30:12 [DanCon]
==== ADJOURN. till 13Jun.
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-JosD
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-JeffH
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-Evan.Wallace
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-Ian.Horrocks
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- +1.484.892.aaaa
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-TimFinin
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-John.Stanton
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-Laurent(sp?)
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-NickG
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-FrankvH?
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-Terhorst?
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-MDean
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-Massimo
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-PeterPS?
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-RudigerK?
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-DanC
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-JHendler
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-Guus
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