IRC log of webont on 2002-06-06
Timestamps are in UTC.
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- 15:08:45 [DanCon]
- Zakim, this will be WebO
- 15:08:46 [Zakim]
- ok, DanCon
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- DanCon has changed the topic to: 6Jun WebOnt. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/
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- +JHendler
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- +??P17
- 15:59:12 [jhendler]
- zakim, ??p17 is Guus
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- +Guus; got it
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- +John.Stanton
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- +??P24
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- + +1.484.892.aaaa
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- +??P8
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- +NickG
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- +MDean
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- +DanC
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- +??P11
- 16:01:07 [schreiber]
- regrest: McGuinness, Dale, Buswell, Hellman, Miller, Smith, Stein, Borden, Trastour
- 16:01:18 [Zakim]
- +??P20
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- +??P21
- 16:01:23 [jhendler]
- zakim, who is here?
- 16:01:24 [Zakim]
- I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, ??P24, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, ??P11, ??P20, ??P21
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- +Ian.Horrocks
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- +??P26
- 16:01:56 [DanCon]
- Zakim, ??P24 is perhaps PeterPS
- 16:01:56 [IanH]
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- +PeterPS?; got it
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- Zakim, ??P26 is NickG
- 16:02:22 [Zakim]
- +NickG; got it
- 16:02:29 [DanCon]
- Zakim, ??P24 is JeffH
- 16:02:31 [Zakim]
- sorry, DanCon, I do not recognize a party named '??P24'
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- Zakim, ??P11 is JeffH
- 16:02:39 [Zakim]
- +JeffH; got it
- 16:02:41 [DanCon]
- Zakim, who's here?
- 16:02:42 [Zakim]
- I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, ??P20, ??P21, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a
- 16:02:51 [DanCon]
- Zakim, ??P20 is JosD
- 16:02:53 [Zakim]
- +JosD; got it
- 16:02:55 [DanCon]
- Zakim, who's here?
- 16:02:57 [Zakim]
- I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, ??P21, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a
- 16:03:02 [jhendler]
- zakim, assign name to Person (this one for Ralph)
- 16:03:03 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'assign name to Person (this one for Ralph)', jhendler. Try /msg Zakim help
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- + +33.1.47.65.aabb
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- +??P28
- 16:03:30 [DanCon]
- Zakim, aabb is Laurent(sp?)
- 16:03:31 [Zakim]
- +Laurent(sp?); got it
- 16:03:36 [DanCon]
- Zakim, who's here?
- 16:03:37 [Zakim]
- I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, ??P21, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a, Laurent(sp?), ??P28
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- Zakim, ??P21 is LarryE
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- +LarryE; got it
- 16:03:54 [DanCon]
- Zakim, who's here?
- 16:03:55 [raphael]
- Hi all -
- 16:03:55 [Zakim]
- I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, LarryE, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a, Laurent(sp?), ??P28
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- 16:04:24 [DanCon]
- Zakim, ??P28 is perhaps Terhorst
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- +Terhorst?; got it
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- +Massimo
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- +Evan.Wallace
- 16:04:53 [DanCon]
- Zakim, who's here?
- 16:04:54 [Zakim]
- I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, ??P8, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, LarryE, Ian.Horrocks, NickG.a, Laurent(sp?), Terhorst?, Massimo, Evan.Wallace
- 16:05:41 [DanCon]
- Zakim, NickG.a is perhaps FrankvH
- 16:05:43 [Zakim]
- +FrankvH?; got it
- 16:05:51 [DanCon]
- Zakim, ??P8 is perhaps RudigerK
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- +RudigerK?; got it
- 16:05:55 [DanCon]
- Zakim, who's here?
- 16:05:58 [Zakim]
- I see JHendler, Guus, John.Stanton, PeterPS?, +1.484.892.aaaa, RudigerK?, NickG, MDean, DanC, JeffH, JosD, LarryE, Ian.Horrocks, FrankvH?, Laurent(sp?), Terhorst?, Massimo,
- 16:06:00 [Zakim]
- ... Evan.Wallace
- 16:06:25 [DanCon]
- Zakim, where is 484?
- 16:06:26 [Zakim]
- North American dialing code 1.484 is Pennsylvania
- 16:06:54 [DanCon]
- Zakim, pick a scribe
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- I don't understand 'pick a scribe', DanCon. Try /msg Zakim help
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- + +1.845.451.aacc
- 16:08:30 [DanCon]
- Zakim, aacc is ChrisW
- 16:08:32 [Zakim]
- +ChrisW; got it
- 16:09:04 [jhendler]
- Chris Welty Scribe
- 16:11:31 [DanCon]
- who's "we"?
- 16:12:33 [jhendler]
- JimH will take an action to make that list
- 16:13:13 [DanCon]
- thx, jim
- 16:13:49 [nmg]
- RDFS review: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jun/0041.html
- 16:16:29 [DanCon]
- what message is Ian talking about?
- 16:16:39 [DanCon]
- ah... something offlist, I guess.
- 16:20:03 [Zakim]
- +??P2
- 16:20:41 [jhendler]
- Dancon - it was mail from terHorst to the list - I cannot pull it from archives at moment
- 16:20:43 [timfinin]
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- 16:20:47 [IanH]
- No, I was talking about http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jun/0008.html
- 16:21:22 [IanH]
- Actually, reading it from the archive solves my problem :-)
- 16:21:31 [DanCon]
- quite ;)
- 16:22:38 [schreiber]
- zakim, ??P2 is TimFinin
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- +TimFinin; got it
- 16:25:22 [Massimo]
- Laurent?
- 16:25:41 [Massimo]
- (Amy spoke ;)
- 16:38:58 [IanH]
- Heavy breathing is getting worse!
- 16:42:04 [Zakim]
- -Guus
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- +??P4
- 16:43:26 [Massimo]
- Zakim, ??P4 is Guus
- 16:43:27 [Zakim]
- +Guus; got it
- 16:49:18 [Massimo]
- We don't do trust *now*, but we care about trust ;)
- 16:50:43 [DanCon]
- "It is expected that future languages will extend this one, adding, among other things, greater logical capabilities and the ability to establish trust on the Semantic Web." -- http://www.w3.org/TR/webont-req/
- 16:51:11 [Massimo]
- yep, precisely, good catch
- 16:56:42 [DanCon]
- Zakim, mute laurent
- 16:56:43 [Zakim]
- Laurent(sp?) should now be muted
- 16:57:27 [DanCon]
- MIT admin suggested the breathing is coming from the port we called "Laurent". (note that when I did role, I wasn't sure who was really calling from which ports)
- 16:57:38 [DanCon]
- unumte laurentO
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- unumte laurent
- 16:57:42 [DanCon]
- Zakim,unumte laurent
- 16:57:52 [DanCon]
- Zakim, unmute laurent
- 16:57:53 [Zakim]
- Laurent(sp?) should no longer be muted
- 17:00:53 [DanCon]
- well played.
- 17:06:44 [pfps]
- q+
- 17:08:47 [DanCon]
- ack peter
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- ack pfps
- 17:11:47 [Zakim]
- -ChrisW
- 17:12:39 [jhendler]
- q+
- 17:13:03 [DanCon]
- IanH: (a) seems to me implementors can read a large documents and pick a piece (b) not an extension of RDF schema
- 17:13:10 [schreiber]
- ack Jhendler
- 17:13:17 [DanCon]
- ... but rather a subset of DAML+OIL/OWL
- 17:13:29 [DanCon]
- [... more discussion of readership, purpose, etc. ... ]
- 17:21:15 [DanCon]
- Guus: all that said, is it ok if, for now, the editors maintain the two document separately?
- 17:21:22 [DanCon]
- a few: yes.
- 17:21:36 [DanCon]
- ACTION Guus: to put status of named subset on the ftf agenda.
- 17:21:56 [DanCon]
- Guus: any further thoughts on the name?
- 17:22:23 [DanCon]
- Frank: "compliance level 1" remains a favorite among the editors. seems to match.
- 17:23:36 [DanCon]
- Guus: on to OWL reference... Mike Dean has volunteered to edit...
- 17:24:01 [DanCon]
- DanCon: likely to be available by 17Jun?
- 17:24:08 [DanCon]
- MikeD: I'll target that, but I can see various risks.
- 17:24:55 [DanCon]
- Massimo, do you know anything about net stuff in Sardenia?
- 17:25:09 [Massimo]
- AFAIK, no net connectivity
- 17:25:37 [Massimo]
- it's an hotel in the middle of nowhere, and I couldn't see anything on their web site
- 17:25:43 [DanCon]
- Guus: on to "Feature Synopsis of the OWL Ontology Language"... Peter, do you expect more changes?
- 17:25:52 [Massimo]
- but I can better check of you want
- 17:25:59 [jhendler]
- we (the conf) has arranged for some minimal connection - but details are still unclear
- 17:26:01 [DanCon]
- Peter: yes... some work in progress. Yes, I'll have something for the 17Jun ftf prep deadline.
- 17:26:10 [Massimo]
- my plan was to connect by telephone to the italian local provider there
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- (in necessity, as hotel calls might be expensive)
- 17:27:04 [DanCon]
- Guus: on to "A UML Presentation Syntax for OWL Lite"...
- 17:27:41 [DanCon]
- Peter: no movement... no reviews so far... I'd like some input from XML schema knowledgeable folks
- 17:27:53 [DanCon]
- ACTION [who?]: review presentation syntax.
- 17:28:02 [DanCon]
- ACTION PFPS: send updated presentation syntax.
- 17:28:24 [DanCon]
- ACTION RaphaelV: review presentation syntax.
- 17:28:39 [DanCon]
- ==== 6) Reponse to DT document from RDF Core/CG (5 min)
- 17:29:10 [DanCon]
- Guus: J. Borden sent it; the SemWeb CG discussed it at length without any particular conclusion, other than to note the RDF Core WG is likely to look at it at their ftf.
- 17:29:27 [DanCon]
- ==== scribe volunteer?
- 17:29:48 [DanCon]
- JeffH volunteers. (applause!)
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- -LarryE
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- ==== ADJOURN. till 13Jun.
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- - +1.484.892.aaaa
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- -TimFinin
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- -John.Stanton
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- -Laurent(sp?)
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- -NickG
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- -FrankvH?
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- -Terhorst?
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- -MDean
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- -Massimo
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- -PeterPS?
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- -RudigerK?
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- -JHendler
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- -Guus
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