IRC log of webont on 2002-05-30

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15:43:12 [DanC_]
Zakim, this will be WEBO
15:43:17 [Zakim]
ok, DanC_
15:43:39 [DanC_]
DanC_ has changed the topic to: 30May WebOnt WG http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/
15:48:54 [raphael]
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15:49:11 [raphael]
Hi -
15:49:17 [DanC_]
hi
15:49:26 [raphael]
DanC_ do you know how to scribe ? any special requirements
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15:51:26 [schreiber]
hi, pahael, I hope we can do the roll call via Zakim
15:51:36 [raphael]
Hi guus, any special requirements for the scribing ???
15:52:15 [raphael]
Is the conference bridge already open ?
15:52:17 [schreiber]
not really, main points are to record the actions/decisions
15:52:35 [raphael]
OK. Send the first draft to the list or directly to you ?
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15:56:30 [DanC_]
logger_1, pointer?
15:56:31 [logger_1]
See http://ilrt.org/discovery/chatlogs/webont/2002-05-30#T15-56-30
15:56:33 [DanC_]
RRSAgent, pointer?
15:56:35 [RRSAgent]
See http://www.w3.org/2002/05/30-webont-irc#T15-56-33
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SW_WebOnt()12:00PM has now started
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+JHendler
15:57:04 [schreiber]
raphael, you can send the first draft directly to the list
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+??P0
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15:58:27 [jhendler]
zakim, ??P0 is Guus
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+Guus; got it
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+??P7
15:58:46 [DanC_]
Guus, did you cite last meeting's minutes from the agenda?
15:58:47 [Zakim]
+ +1.408.732.aaaa
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+??P11
15:58:50 [jhendler]
zakim, ??P7 is JohnStant
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+JohnStant; got it
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zakim, ??P11 is raphael
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+Raphael; got it
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zakim, aaaa is jonDale
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+JonDale; got it
15:59:32 [jhendler]
zakim, who is here
15:59:34 [Zakim]
jhendler, you need to end that query with '?'
15:59:36 [jhendler]
zakim, who is here?
15:59:38 [Zakim]
I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael
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+Massimo
16:00:15 [DanC_]
23May minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002May/0201.html
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+Stein
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+??P14
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+ +1.484.892.aabb
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+??P21
16:00:48 [jhendler]
zakim,??p14 is Evan
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+??P22
16:01:15 [jono]
hello
16:01:15 [jhendler]
zakim,??p21 is Larry
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16:01:32 [jhendler]
zakim, who is here
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zakim, who is here?
16:01:34 [Zakim]
jhendler, you need to end that query with '?'
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I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael, Massimo (muted), Stein, ??P14, +1.484.892.aabb, ??P21, ??P22
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+DanC
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-??P22
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+??P3
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+??P12
16:02:12 [DanC_]
Zakim, who's here?
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I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael, Massimo (muted), Stein, ??P14, +1.484.892.aabb, ??P21, DanC, ??P3, ??P12
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+??P20
16:03:07 [DanC_]
Zakim, ??P20 is JosD
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+JosD; got it
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Zakim, ??P21 is JeffH
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+JeffH; got it
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+??P22
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Zakim, ??P12 is DavidT
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+DavidT; got it
16:04:08 [DanC_]
Zakim, who's here?
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I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael, Massimo (muted), Stein, ??P14, +1.484.892.aabb, JeffH, DanC, ??P3, DavidT, JosD, ??P22
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+??P24
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Zakim, ??P3 is LibbyM
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+LibbyM; got it
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Zakim, ??P24 is ZivH
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+ZivH; got it
16:04:35 [DanC_]
Zakim, who's here?
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I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael, Massimo (muted), Stein, ??P14, +1.484.892.aabb, JeffH, DanC, LibbyM, DavidT, JosD, ??P22, ZivH
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+??P25
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Zakim, ??P25 is LarryE
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+LarryE; got it
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Zakim, ??P22 is Wallace
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+Wallace; got it
16:05:12 [DanC_]
Zakim, who's here?
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I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael, Massimo (muted), Stein, ??P14, +1.484.892.aabb, JeffH, DanC, LibbyM, DavidT, JosD, Wallace, ZivH, LarryE (muted)
16:05:32 [DanC_]
Zakim, ??P14 is JeremyC
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+JeremyC; got it
16:05:48 [DanC_]
oops... I should have used "is perhaps JeremyC" and so on.
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+ +1.703.883.aacc
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Zakim, aacc is LeoO
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+LeoO; got it
16:06:31 [jhendler]
regrets Dean, Finin, Gibbins, Hellman, Klein, McGuinness, Smith, sabbouh, vanHarmelen
16:07:04 [DanC_]
er... any reason not to cite the schedule proposal?
16:07:10 [Zakim]
+ +1.416.595.aadd
16:07:25 [DanC_]
# ALL: WG schedule Guus Schreiber (Wed, Mar 27 2002) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Mar/0313.html
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+ +1.613.637.aaee
16:07:33 [DanC_]
Zakim, aadd is ChrisWelty
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+ChrisWelty; got it
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Zakim, aaee is IanH
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+IanH; got it
16:08:15 [jhendler]
zakim, who is here?
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I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael, Massimo (muted), Stein, JeremyC, +1.484.892.aabb, JeffH, DanC, LibbyM, DavidT, JosD, Wallace, ZivH, LarryE (muted), LeoO,
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... ChrisWelty, IanH
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+??P30
16:09:49 [DanC_]
hm... DDeR... ah... D.C. De Roure
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+NickG
16:10:10 [DanC_]
did you just dial in, D.C.?
16:10:17 [DDeR]
Yes I did Dan, thanks
16:10:48 [DDeR]
I'm acting as Nick G's alternate - he's moving house - but I'm time-limited
16:11:18 [Zakim]
-IanH
16:13:55 [jono]
danC: I would say by the 26th; that should give the caterers enough time to adjust food requirements
16:14:00 [DanC_]
many of these documents are (finally) cited from the WG home page. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/#Current
16:14:29 [Zakim]
+??P29
16:14:36 [DanC_]
registration closes 26Jun; ok. Wanna pad that? you'll *start* getting registrations on whatever deadline you set.
16:15:01 [DanC_]
Zakim, ??P29 is perhaps IanH
16:15:02 [Zakim]
+IanH?; got it
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+Jonathan.Borden
16:15:31 [DanC_]
this one, yes? http://www.ksl.stanford.edu/people/dlm/webont/compliance.html
16:16:16 [jono]
danc: whatever you think appropriate, that's kind of the minimum date I would expect the caterers to need - what about the friday before that - the 21st?
16:16:28 [DanC_]
yeah, let's say 21st
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16:21:15 [DanC_]
hmm... so this one isn't the right one. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002May/att-0173/01-owl.html
16:22:07 [DanC_]
this one? 22May http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002May/0178.html
16:22:54 [jhendler]
regrets - Enrico Motta.
16:23:03 [DanC_]
where there *any* substantive comments, Jeff?
16:25:44 [Zakim]
+??P35
16:34:07 [DanC_]
"08:54:03 [nmg]
16:34:07 [DanC_]
pfps: removal of inverseOf was on the basis of complexity of inference"
16:34:41 [DanC_]
http://www.w3.org/2002/04/08-webont-irc
16:35:07 [DanC_]
other issue: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/WebOnt/webont-issues.html#5.1-Unifo
16:36:58 [DanC_]
woohoo! we closed an issue!
16:42:27 [JonB]
q+
16:43:34 [las]
If restrict sibling toclass person, then sibling subset person, right?
16:43:36 [JonB]
w.r.t. W3C voting mechanism, this appears to exclude invited experts
16:44:06 [JonB]
which is ok by me if you don't care for my opinion in a straw poll
16:44:28 [DanC_]
no, that was a bug, Jon. You're authorized to contribute.
16:45:31 [DanC_]
I fixed the bug.
16:45:37 [JonB]
thx
16:46:19 [DanC_]
pls do register, btw, jon.
16:46:23 [DanC_]
for the ftf.
16:46:43 [jhendler]
classHasProperty and ClassInstanceHasProperty ??
16:47:21 [DanC_]
27May DTTF thingy: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002May/0229.html
16:48:43 [Zakim]
-ChrisWelty
16:52:38 [Massimo]
q+
16:52:46 [JonB]
q-
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q-
16:54:54 [jhendler]
ack DanC
16:58:05 [JonB]
http://www.openhealth.org/WOWG/DTTF is URI for amended document
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q+
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ack JonB
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q+
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ack massimo
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17:09:18 [pfps]
I know why I didn't use XSV. I couldn't see how to run a schema in XSV, i.e., use a schema to determine whether an XML document was valid int he schema.
17:09:53 [schreiber]
zakim, q
17:09:54 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'q', schreiber. Try /msg Zakim help
17:10:00 [schreiber]
q?
17:10:01 [jhendler]
q
17:10:27 [DanC_]
you can get going pretty easily by putting a pointer to your schema and a pointer to your example document into http://www.w3.org/2001/03/webdata/xsv
17:10:55 [DanC_]
running xsv locally on your desktop is more involved; I've never actually done it.
17:11:04 [DanC_]
I know other folks have.
17:12:03 [jhendler]
zakim, who is here
17:12:04 [Zakim]
jhendler, you need to end that query with '?'
17:12:06 [jhendler]
zakim, who is here?
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I see JHendler, Guus, JohnStant, JonDale, Raphael, Massimo, Stein, JeremyC, +1.484.892.aabb, JeffH, DanC, LibbyM, DavidT, JosD, Wallace, ZivH, LarryE (muted), LeoO, ??P30, NickG,
17:12:10 [Zakim]
... IanH?, Jonathan.Borden, ??P35 (muted)
17:12:40 [pfps]
Ah ha! I didn't notice that you could do validation on the interface.
17:16:29 [Zakim]
-LarryE
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-JeremyC
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-Stein
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-DavidT
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-JeffH
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-LeoO
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-Jonathan.Borden
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-ZivH
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-Wallace
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-LibbyM
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-??P35
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-DanC
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-Guus
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-Raphael
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-??P30
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-IanH?
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-Massimo
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-JHendler
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- +1.484.892.aabb
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-JohnStant
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-NickG
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-JosD
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-JonDale
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SW_WebOnt()12:00PM has ended
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