ISSUE-30

binaryXML-30

Standardize a "binary XML" format?

State:
OPEN
Product:
Raised by:
Noah Mendelsohn
Opened on:
2002-10-09
Description:
Shepherd: Noah Mendelsohn

Rank: medium

Current deliverables:
None.

External contacts & dependencies:
EXI WG (see ACTION-176 - now pending review)

Related documents:
EXI best practices document http://www.w3.org/TR/exi-best-practices/

Issue scope (from original framing of the issue):
Given that binary infosets (currently, binary PSVIs ) is what I work on daily and that I am currently investigating ways in which they could fit naturally into the web (content-coding registration for instance), I would be very interested in knowing what -- if anything at this point -- the TAG thinks of them and of how they could best fit in.  [It's not clear who is being quoted here, but it is not me - Noah]

Status:
Information provided by Taki Kamiya in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Mar/0003.html suggests that EXI is working in two areas that are related to previous discussions with the TAG.  These areas are a) deciding whether content-encoding is an appropriate means of signaling use of EXI and b) updating the analysis of EXI performance to demonstrate that the goals of the project have been met.   See also http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Mar/0102.html which is a note from Noah Mendelsohn updating the status of the TAG's work on this issue.

Other notes:
Larry has suggested helping EXI refactor their spec and help them interact better with IETF re: content-encoding.  (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Feb/0035.html)

Henry has alerted us that EXI may be reconsidering the content encoding decision. (see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Feb/0037.html)

Community affected: mobile XML usage community, EXI WG

External contacts & dependencies: EXI WG (see ACTION-176 - now closed)
Related Actions Items:
Related emails:
  1. Re: Efficient XML Interchange (EXI) LC spec addresses ISSUE-30 (binaryXML-30)? (from timbl@w3.org on 2009-11-26)
  2. Re: Efficient XML Interchange (EXI) LC spec addresses ISSUE-30 (binaryXML-30)? (from robin@berjon.com on 2009-11-25)
  3. Re: Efficient XML Interchange (EXI) LC spec addresses ISSUE-30 (binaryXML-30)? (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-11-24)
  4. Efficient XML Interchange (EXI) LC spec addresses ISSUE-30 (binaryXML-30)? (from connolly@w3.org on 2009-11-24)
  5. RE: TAG review of EXI Best Practices (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-11-10)
  6. RE: TAG review of EXI Best Practices (from tkamiya@us.fujitsu.com on 2009-11-01)
  7. Re: [State of HTML WG Unresolved Issues] (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-08-25)
  8. [State of HTML WG Unresolved Issues] (from raman@google.com on 2009-08-25)
  9. RE: TAG review of EXI Best Practices (from sklein@cpcug.org on 2009-04-22)
  10. RE: TAG review of EXI Best Practices (from tkamiya@us.fujitsu.com on 2009-04-21)
  11. Approved minutes of the TAG F2F of 3-5 March 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-04-02)
  12. Setting TAG Priorities - Review of discussion and planning to date (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-03-22)
  13. RE: TAG Pending Review Action Items (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-03-13)
  14. Re: TAG Pending Review Action Items (from jar@creativecommons.org on 2009-03-11)
  15. RE: TAG Pending Review Action Items (from masinter@adobe.com on 2009-03-11)
  16. TAG Pending Review Action Items (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-03-10)
  17. RE: TAG review of EXI Best Practices (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-03-09)
  18. Agenda for TAG Face-to-Face Meeting, 3-5 March 2009 (Redwood Shores, CA) (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-02-25)
  19. Approved minutes of TAG Teleconference of 5 February 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-02-17)
  20. Draft of minutes from 5 February 2009 TAG telecon for review (from jar@creativecommons.org on 2009-02-10)
  21. TAG Telcon Agenda for 5th February 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-02-03)
  22. Minutes from Jan 15, 2009 Telcon (from ashok.malhotra@oracle.com on 2009-01-16)
  23. TAG Teleconference Agenda for 15 January 2009 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2009-01-14)
  24. Draft TAG Agenda fro 15th Jan. (from skw@hp.com on 2009-01-13)
  25. Draft minutes of W3C TAG Teleconference of 18 Dec 2008 (from jar@creativecommons.org on 2009-01-07)
  26. Draft TAG telcon agenda 18th Dec 2009: IRIEverywhere-27;Self-Describing Web; XMLVersioing-41; binaryXML-30. (from skw@hp.com on 2008-12-16)
  27. Re: any urgency to comments on EXI? ISSUE-30 (binaryXML-30) (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2008-12-04)
  28. any urgency to comments on EXI? ISSUE-30 (binaryXML-30) (from connolly@w3.org on 2008-12-04)
  29. TAG Telcon Agenda 9th Oct 2008: 'Content Transformation Guidelines' LC Review; passwordsInTheClear-52; binaryXML-30; TAG@TPAC (from skw@hp.com on 2008-10-08)
  30. RE: TAG minutes from 11th September 2008 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-09-16)
  31. Re: TAG minutes from 11th September 2008 (from john.bradley@wingaa.com on 2008-09-16)
  32. Re: TAG minutes from 11th September 2008 (from noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com on 2008-09-16)
  33. TAG minutes from 11th September 2008 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-09-16)
  34. Re: TAG weekly telcon agenda for 11 Sep 2008: XMLVersioning-41; binaryXML-30; UrnsAndRegistries-50; Self-Describing Web; F2F Agenda; tagSoupIntegration-54; abreviateURIs-56; WS-* inquiry; Content-Transformation Guidelines review request; htpRedirecti (from orchard@pacificspirit.com on 2008-09-10)
  35. TAG weekly telcon agenda for 11 Sep 2008: XMLVersioning-41; binaryXML-30; UrnsAndRegistries-50; Self-Describing Web; F2F Agenda; tagSoupIntegration-54; abreviateURIs-56; WS-* inquiry; Content-Transformation Guidelines review request; htpRedirections-57 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-09-10)
  36. ISSUE-30 FW: Transition Request: EXI Impacts First Public Working Draft (from skw@hp.com on 2008-09-05)
  37. Meeting record for TAG Telcon: 10th Jan 2008 (from skw@hp.com on 2008-01-16)
  38. TAG telcon Agenda: 10 January 2008: binaryXML-30;WAF Access Control Revew;'ping' attribute; (from skw@hp.com on 2008-01-09)
  39. TAG Weekly Telcon agenda for 29th Nov 2007; abbreviatedURI-56; binaryXML-30; passwordInTheClear-52; review request; namespaceDocument-8 (from skw@hp.com on 2007-11-29)
  40. Regrets for Nov 15th (from rhys@volantis.com on 2007-11-14)
  41. TAG Telcon agenda 15th Nov 2007: abbreviatedURI-56, binaryXML-30, passwordsInTheClear-52, httpRedirections-57 (from skw@hp.com on 2007-11-13)
  42. TAG Telcon Agenda for 1st November 2007. (from skw@hp.com on 2007-11-01)
  43. Draft minutes from TAG telcon 4th October 2008. (from skw@hp.com on 2007-10-09)
  44. TAG Telcon Agenda for 4th October 2007: binaryXML-30; XMLVersioning-41; httpRedirections-57 (from skw@hp.com on 2007-10-04)
  45. RE: TAG telcon Agenda for 27th September 2007: [TechPlenary; binaryXML-28; XMLVersioning-41] (from dorchard@bea.com on 2007-09-26)
  46. TAG telcon Agenda for 27th September 2007: [TechPlenary; binaryXML-28; XMLVersioning-41] (from skw@hp.com on 2007-09-26)
  47. TAG (from on 2005-05-10)
  48. W3C TAG Telcon (from on 2005-05-03)
  49. Tag teleconference of 26-April-2005 (from on 2005-04-26)
  50. 12 April 2005 Tag Teleconference (from on 2005-04-12)
  51. TAG Weekly Teleconference (from on 2005-04-05)
  52. 15 March 2005 Tag Teleconference (from on 2005-03-15)
  53. Boston TAG F2F (from on 2005-02-28)
  54. Tag weekly meeting Feb 7, 2005 (from on 2005-02-07)
  55. Minutes of 12-14 May 2004 TAG FTF meeting in Boston (from on 2004-05-12)
  56. Minutes of 4 December 2003 TAG teleconference (from on 2003-12-04)
  57. Minutes of 17 Feb 2003 TAG teleconference (from on 2003-02-17)
  58. Minutes of 17 Feb 2003 TAG teleconference (from on 2003-02-17)
  59. Minutes of 6-7 Feb 2003 TAG ftf meeting (from on 2003-02-06)
  60. Minutes of 27 Jan 2003 TAG teleconference (from on 2003-01-27)
  61. Minutes of 13 Jan 2003 TAG teleconference (from on 2003-01-13)
  62. Minutes of 2 Dec 2002 TAG teleconference (from on 2002-12-02)
  63. Minutes of 2 Dec 2002 TAG teleconference (from on 2002-12-02)
  64. Binary Infosets (from Robin Berjon <robin.berjon@expway.fr> on 2002-10-09)

Related notes:

2007-08-24 00:00:00: Subject: Efficient XML Interchange (EXI) drafts are available (binaryXML-30)
From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
To: www-tag <www-tag@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:50:51 -0500
http://www.w3.org/mid/1185857451.4187.1135.camel@pav

2009-03-03 23:09:34: [DanC_lap]: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#binaryXML-30

2009-03-03 23:12:07: [DanC_lap]: http://www.w3.org/TR/exi-best-practices/

Changelog:

2007-08-24 00:00:00: Owner changed to 'Tim Berners-Lee'

2007-08-24 00:00:00: Description changed to 'Given that binary infosets (currently, binary PSVIs ) is what I work on daily and that I am currently investigating ways in which they could fit naturally into the web (content-coding registration for instance), I would be very interested in knowing what -- if anything at this point -- the TAG thinks of them and of how they could best fit in. '

2007-08-24 00:00:00: Issue dissociated from any product

2009-02-10 17:00:48: Description changed to 'Given that binary infosets (currently, binary PSVIs ) is what I work on daily and that I am currently investigating ways in which they could fit naturally into the web (content-coding registration for instance), I would be very interested in knowing what -- if anything at this point -- the TAG thinks of them and of how they could best fit in. Status: Noah is unsure what was promised, to whom and why on ACTION-176. Noah has as background activity to figure it out. Larry has suggested helping EXI refactor their spec and help them interact better with IETF re: content-encoding. Henry has alerted us that EXI may be reconsidering the content encoding decision. ' [Noah Mendelsohn]

2009-02-10 17:00:48: Issue dissociated from any product [Noah Mendelsohn]

2009-02-10 17:02:05: Description changed to 'Given that binary infosets (currently, binary PSVIs ) is what I work on daily and that I am currently investigating ways in which they could fit naturally into the web (content-coding registration for instance), I would be very interested in knowing what -- if anything at this point -- the TAG thinks of them and of how they could best fit in. Status: Noah is unsure what was promised, to whom and why on ACTION-176. Noah has as background activity to figure it out. Larry has suggested helping EXI refactor their spec and help them interact better with IETF re: content-encoding. (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Feb/0035.html) Henry has alerted us that EXI may be reconsidering the content encoding decision. (see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Feb/0037.html) ' [Noah Mendelsohn]

2009-02-10 17:02:05: Issue dissociated from any product [Noah Mendelsohn]

2009-03-03 23:08:48: Owner changed to 'Noah Mendelsohn' [Dan Connolly]

2009-03-03 23:08:48: Description changed to 'community affected: mobile XML usage community, EXI WG Given that binary infosets (currently, binary PSVIs ) is what I work on daily and that I am currently investigating ways in which they could fit naturally into the web (content-coding registration for instance), I would be very interested in knowing what -- if anything at this point -- the TAG thinks of them and of how they could best fit in. Status: Noah is unsure what was promised, to whom and why on ACTION-176. Noah has as background activity to figure it out. Larry has suggested helping EXI refactor their spec and help them interact better with IETF re: content-encoding. (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Feb/0035.html) Henry has alerted us that EXI may be reconsidering the content encoding decision. (see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Feb/0037.html) ' [Dan Connolly]

2009-03-03 23:08:48: Issue dissociated from any product [Dan Connolly]

2009-03-03 23:15:15: Description changed to 'Rank: medium Current deliverables: Review of the EXI best practices document http://www.w3.org/TR/exi-best-practices/ Issue scope: Given that binary infosets (currently, binary PSVIs ) is what I work on daily and that I am currently investigating ways in which they could fit naturally into the web (content-coding registration for instance), I would be very interested in knowing what -- if anything at this point -- the TAG thinks of them and of how they could best fit in. Status: Noah is unsure what was promised, to whom and why on ACTION-176. Noah has as background activity to figure it out. Larry has suggested helping EXI refactor their spec and help them interact better with IETF re: content-encoding. (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Feb/0035.html) Henry has alerted us that EXI may be reconsidering the content encoding decision. (see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Feb/0037.html) Community affected: mobile XML usage community, EXI WG External contacts & dependencies: EXI WG (see ACTION-176)' [Jonathan Rees]

2009-03-03 23:15:15: Issue dissociated from any product [Jonathan Rees]

2009-03-09 14:19:08: Description changed to 'Shepherd: Noah Mendelsohn Rank: medium Current deliverables: None. External contacts & dependencies: EXI WG (see ACTION-176 - now pending review) Related documents: EXI best practices document http://www.w3.org/TR/exi-best-practices/ Issue scope: Given that binary infosets (currently, binary PSVIs ) is what I work on daily and that I am currently investigating ways in which they could fit naturally into the web (content-coding registration for instance), I would be very interested in knowing what -- if anything at this point -- the TAG thinks of them and of how they could best fit in. Status: Information provided by Taki Kamiya in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Mar/0003.html suggests that EXI is working in two areas that are related to previous discussions with the TAG. These areas are a) deciding whether content-encoding is an appropriate means of signaling use of EXI and b) updating the analysis of EXI performance to demonstrate that the goals of the project have been met. See also http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Mar/0102.html which is a note from Noah Mendelsohn updating the status of the TAG's work on this issue. Other notes: Larry has suggested helping EXI refactor their spec and help them interact better with IETF re: content-encoding. (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Feb/0035.html) Henry has alerted us that EXI may be reconsidering the content encoding decision. (see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Feb/0037.html) Community affected: mobile XML usage community, EXI WG External contacts & dependencies: EXI WG (see ACTION-176 - now closed)' [Noah Mendelsohn]

2009-03-09 14:19:08: Issue dissociated from any product [Noah Mendelsohn]

2009-03-09 14:20:44: Description changed to 'Shepherd: Noah Mendelsohn Rank: medium Current deliverables: None. External contacts & dependencies: EXI WG (see ACTION-176 - now pending review) Related documents: EXI best practices document http://www.w3.org/TR/exi-best-practices/ Issue scope (from original framing of the issue): Given that binary infosets (currently, binary PSVIs ) is what I work on daily and that I am currently investigating ways in which they could fit naturally into the web (content-coding registration for instance), I would be very interested in knowing what -- if anything at this point -- the TAG thinks of them and of how they could best fit in. [It's not clear who is being quoted here, but it is not me - Noah] Status: Information provided by Taki Kamiya in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Mar/0003.html suggests that EXI is working in two areas that are related to previous discussions with the TAG. These areas are a) deciding whether content-encoding is an appropriate means of signaling use of EXI and b) updating the analysis of EXI performance to demonstrate that the goals of the project have been met. See also http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Mar/0102.html which is a note from Noah Mendelsohn updating the status of the TAG's work on this issue. Other notes: Larry has suggested helping EXI refactor their spec and help them interact better with IETF re: content-encoding. (See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Feb/0035.html) Henry has alerted us that EXI may be reconsidering the content encoding decision. (see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Feb/0037.html) Community affected: mobile XML usage community, EXI WG External contacts & dependencies: EXI WG (see ACTION-176 - now closed)' [Noah Mendelsohn]

2009-03-09 14:20:44: Issue dissociated from any product [Noah Mendelsohn]

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