Formerly Echo following the development of the syndication framework formerly known as Echo http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/ 2003-07-12T13:29:34+02:00 Recent Changes (2003-07-12:12:30+01:00) Necho and MetaPub appear to be the current front-runners in ProjectNameProposals. Suggestions that there is WikiChaos suggest that those who know the answers maybe should take a break from expressing them and do a bit of refactoring for a... http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/2003/07/recent_changes_2.html http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/2003/07/recent_changes_2.html 2003-07-12T13:29:34+02:00 2003-07-12T13:29:34+02:00 2003-07-12T13:33:24+02:00 danja http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/ text/html (2003-07-12:12:30+01:00)

Necho and MetaPub appear to be the current front-runners in ProjectNameProposals.

Suggestions that there is WikiChaos suggest that those who know the answers maybe should take a break from expressing them and do a bit of refactoring for a while.

The "lots of buttons" question mentioned here earlier has been moved from UnansweredFAQ to FAQ. Essentially : no need for buttons when you've got AutoDiscovery.

There is a report of "violent flux" over whether the format should be element-centric (as in the 2003-07-01 snapshot) or "attribute-centric" (as in this version). Cast your vote at VoteOnEchoFormat.

(from 2003-07-11)

The use of Echo for BackUp is suggested. The idea of using the format for weblog archives has been around a while (RSS 1.0 can be used directly, Dave Winer did some extension stuff for RSS 2.0 which could be looked at using 'blogbrowsers' - anyone got refs?) but this doesn't appear to have come up in the Echo discussions until now.
Note also that the list of UseCases continues to grow.

On ProjectAdvertising the interesting power (law) point We don't need 50% of webloggers to convert to get 50% of the traffic on nEcho, we only need the top 5% to convert. gets the response that all we really need is the toolmaker's support.

A novel form of personal metadata is proposed by AdamRice, TasteData : Any kind of data that reveals a person's tastes, but is not content created by that person.

There is a suggestion that Related-style functionality can be included in the XML content, but this page is desperately in need of refactoring (and perhaps joining with all the other similar cases to come up with a consistent, unified SyntaxExtensionMechanism).

IsEntryIDanID is now WhatIsEntryId (Discussion on whether or not to make the id attribute in an xsd:ID).

Discussion on Identity continues.

RogersCadenhead appears to have been nominated Keeper of the Sacred Mushrooms.

The Wiki appears to have slowed down for the weekend, which suggest that many people are contributing instead of doing their day job. Viva la Revolution!

]]> TypePad adds Echo Support Every TypePad site now has a necho.xml feed. For example, here's ours. Yay! Obviously this is still preliminary, but it's a great start.... http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/2003/07/typepad_adds_ec.html http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/2003/07/typepad_adds_ec.html 2003-07-11T19:41:14+02:00 2003-07-11T19:41:14+02:00 2003-07-11T19:41:51+02:00 danja http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/ text/html Every TypePad site now has a necho.xml feed. For example, here's ours. Yay!

Obviously this is still preliminary, but it's a great start.

]]> Validator support The RSS validator has been updated to be a feed validator and now has preliminary ``Pie'' support. Source code is available and comes with 225 test cases.... http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/2003/07/validator_suppo.html http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/2003/07/validator_suppo.html 2003-07-10T21:17:38+02:00 2003-07-10T21:17:38+02:00 2003-07-10T21:17:47+02:00 danja http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/ text/html The RSS validator has been updated to be a feed validator and now has preliminary ``Pie'' support.

Source code is available and comes with 225 test cases.

]]> Schemas galore Tim Bray has done a RelaxNG schema for the current alpha Necho. He used James Clark’s ("wonderful") Trang tool, which also generates an XML Schema. Discussion on the Wiki at RelaxSchema. Apparently it's the first time he's used RelaxNG, but... http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/2003/07/schemas_galore.html http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/2003/07/schemas_galore.html 2003-07-10T17:07:53+02:00 2003-07-10T17:07:53+02:00 2003-07-10T17:08:03+02:00 danja http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/ text/html Tim Bray has done a RelaxNG schema for the current alpha Necho. He used James Clark’s ("wonderful") Trang tool, which also generates an XML Schema. Discussion on the Wiki at RelaxSchema.


Apparently it's the first time he's used RelaxNG, but he's joined the church : "...having now done one serious (albeit small) project with RelaxNG, I really REALLY wonder why anyone would use anything else?" (xml-dev)

(elsewhere, there's also an OWL ontology)

]]> Where it's headed? Steve Pilgrim of RodentRegatta (Entry fees unchanged since 1923) notes Tristan Louis's RSS2Necho and asks "When to convert?" The answers to that aren't too difficult, but ProjectAdvertising department need to deal with this UnansweredFAQ : Is this what it's coming... http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/2003/07/where_its_heade.html http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/2003/07/where_its_heade.html 2003-07-10T10:44:11+02:00 2003-07-10T10:44:11+02:00 2003-07-12T13:35:35+02:00 danja http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/ text/html Steve Pilgrim of RodentRegatta (Entry fees unchanged since 1923) notes Tristan Louis's RSS2Necho and asks "When to convert?"

The answers to that aren't too difficult, but ProjectAdvertising department need to deal with this UnansweredFAQ :


Is this what it's coming to:

  • RSS 2.0 Excerpts
  • RSS 2.0 Full
  • RSS 2.0 Full with comments
  • Necho Excerpts
  • Necho Full
  • Necho Full with comments
  • RSS 1.0 Excerpts
  • RSS 1.0 Full
  • RSS 1.0 Full with comments

Is this where it's all headed? Will we be making little buttons for each of these?


PS. There's now a FAQ entry. Essentially : no need for buttons when you've got AutoDiscovery.

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