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[Noah] Just sent editorial notes on XOP to distAPP. See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2004Aug/0002.html [Noah] I'll try pasting the whole list here: [Noah] * Section 2.1 on XOP Include: allows zero or more namespace-qualified [Noah] element and attribute children, but is silent on unqualified children. [Noah] Should we be explicit that unqual elements and attrs. are not allowed? [Noah] * Section 3.1: bullet 4, subitem 3: Spelling error: metadate->metadata [Noah] * Section 4.1: "The root MIME part is the root part of the XOP package, [Noah] >and< MUST be a serialization of the XOP Infoset using any W3C [Noah] recommendation-level version of XML (e.g., [XML 1.0], [XML 1.1]), >and< [Noah] MUST be identified with a media type of "application/xop+xml" (as defined [Noah] below)." Suggest rem [Noah] ...Suggest removing the first >and< indicated in brackets. The [Noah] word "and" appears twice. [Noah] * Various example boxes bleed off the page when printed in IE [mnot] mnot has joined #xmlprotocol [Noah] That's it. Sorry for last minute review. [Noah] Mnot: see my comments on XOP just posted to Suggest removing the first >and< indicated in brackets. The [Noah] word "and" appears twice. [Noah] * Various example boxes bleed off the page when printed in IE [Noah] Argh!!! [Gudge] Noah: regarding Section 2.1, my assumption was that what was stated was allowed, everything else was disallowed [Noah] Mnot: see my comments on xop just posted to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2004Aug/0002.html 1. Roll Present 7/5 BEA Systems, Mark Nottingham (scribe) IBM, David Fallside IBM, Noah Mendelsohn Microsoft Corporation, Martin Gudgin Nokia, Michael Mahan Sun Microsystems, Tony Graham Sun Microsystems, Marc Hadley Excused BEA Systems, David Orchard IBM, John Ibbotson Microsoft Corporation, Jeff Schlimmer IONA Technologies, Suresh Kodichath SAP AG, Gerd Hoelzing Regrets Canon, Jean-Jacques Moreau Canon, Herve Ruellan Oracle, Anish Karmarkar SeeBeyond, Pete Wenzel W3C, Yves Lafon SAP AG, Volker Wiechers Absent Oracle, Jeff Mischkinsky 2. Agenda Review 3. Minutes [Scribe] minutes from 23rd and 30th of June, 7th of July are approved without objection. 4. Action item Review [Gudge] I've fixed the typo in Section 3.1 [Scribe] September F2F resolved to be in Manhattan on Sept. 21-22 [Gudge] MarkN action complete [Gudge] MarkN action for 470 complete [Gudge] Editorial action done [Gudge] Chair action for 470 done [Gudge] Gudge action for 485 done 5. Status Reports [Gudge] Noah: I've also removed that spurious 'and' from Section 4.1 [Scribe] - Media Type Registration: nothing to report [Gudge] Noah: Thanks for the review! [Scribe] - Media Type document and XMLP/WSD TF: skipped [Scribe] - F2F: (see above) [Scribe] - Primer review: Nilo should be at the Sept. F2F [Scribe] - WSDL Review: No formal notice of LC yet. Would it be appropriate for XMLP to review? [Scribe] Marc: Yes; entirely appropriate [Scribe] Marc: can do one part [Scribe] Chair: can we presume that part 3 is the most relevant? [Scribe] (many): yes. [Scribe] Chair: Marc to review part 3. [Scribe] MarkN: will review part 1. [Scribe] Chair: will send an e-mail to group WRT part 2 [Scribe] Mike: I can do part 2. 6. Attachments / CR Documents [Scribe] Chair: have recieved confirmation that the representation header document is complete; WG members should review. The boilerplate, etc. will be updated over the next week, but the content will stay the change. [Scribe] Chair: Because there don't seem to be many comments for the Representation document, we will make a yes/no decision next week for CR, barring any large changes. [Scribe] - Review comments of XOP, MTOM and Representation specs [Scribe] Chair: does anyone remember whether we chose the camelCase vs. the hyphenated version of the media type attribute? [Scribe] Gudge: the media type document uses CamelCase... [Scribe] Chair: we should use that? [Scribe] No objection to using CamelCase consistently. [Scribe] Noah: I did a read-through of XOP; noticed a few small things. [Scribe] Noah: Section 2.1 of XOP says that xop:Include allows zero or more namespace-qualified children and attributes; what is our intention WRT unqualified children? I would think we wanted to disallow them. [Scribe] Gudge: My reasoning was that anything we don't explicitly allow is disallowed. However, I can see saying something here. [Scribe] Mark: would that disallow whitespace content? [Scribe] Gudge: yes. [Scribe] Noah: we could say that explicitly near the top of the document. [Scribe] Gudge: I prefer the blanket statement. [Gudge] The following subsections provide formal definitions for allowable content in the [Gudge] <emph>element information item</emph> and <emph>attribute information [Gudge] items</emph> used to construct a XOP serialization; content not explicitly listed is disallowed. [Gudge] The following subsections provide formal definitions for content of infoset properties of the [Gudge] <emph>element information item</emph> and <emph>attribute information [Gudge] items</emph> used to construct a XOP serialization; content not explicitly specified is disallowed. [Gudge] The following subsections provide formal definitions for allowable content in the [Gudge] <emph>element information item</emph> and <emph>attribute information [Gudge] items</emph> used to construct a XOP serialization; content not explicitly specified is disallowed. [Scribe] No objection to the last change proposed by Gudge. [Scribe] Noah: Section 3.1 bullet 4, sub-item three: editorial [Noah] "The root MIME part is the root part of the XOP package, >and< MUST be a serialization of the XOP Infoset using any W3C recommendation-level version of XML (e.g., [XML 1.0], [XML 1.1]), >and< MUST be identified with a media type of "application/xop+xml" (as defined below)." Suggest removing the first >and< indicated in brackets. The word "and" appears twice. [Scribe] Noah's proposal to remove second "and" agreed to. [Scribe] Noah: some examples ran off side of page when printing with IE. [Scribe] Gudge: I'm not sure there's much I can do about it, esp. with include instances. [Scribe] Noah: the namespace table also runs off. [Scribe] Chair: the editors are instructed to fix it. [Scribe] No other comments by WG. [Scribe] Chair: Schedule - over the next week, the editors / chair /team will get the right boilerplate into the specs. If you have any last-minute issues, they need to be in before the next meeting, preferably a few days beforehand. We will say yes or no to CR at the meeting; we will submit within a day of a yes. [Scribe] Chair: Issues 485 and 490 are still listed as being open; Gudge said that he had sent the e-mail in. I believe that Yves hasn't updated the LC table yet, so that's it for the issues. [Scribe] Chair: WRT CR feature lists: there has been some e-mail traffic. I haven't seen any pushback to Gudge's proposals. [Scribe] Gudge: Yes. I received mail from Canon that said they'll be available in September. [Scribe] Chair: I've recieved confirmation from Microsoft and White Mesa that they'll have an endpoint. We'll set up some calls when we go to CR with White Mesa and Microsoft. [Scribe] Chair: Aug 18th, 25th, Sept 1st meetings are cancelled [Scribe] Meeting adjourned [Zakim] Attendees were Gudge, Marc, +1.781.993.aaaa, TonyGraham, Mark_Nottingham, me. [RRSAgent] I see 6 open action items: [RRSAgent] ACTION: MarcH to review WSDL Part 3. Due 2004-09-06. [1] [RRSAgent] ACTION: MarkN to review WSDL Part 1. Due 2004-09-06. [2] [RRSAgent] ACTION: MikeM to review WSDL Part 2. Due 2004-09-06. [3] [RRSAgent] ACTION: Chair to announce FTF date to WG et.al. [4] [RRSAgent] ACTION: Chair to outline in email the end-game for doc review and CR [5] [RRSAgent] ACTION: Chair to send WG email re. XMLP shutdown in Aug/Sept [6]