Minutes of XML Protocol telcon, 5 Sept 2001.
1. Roll call
Present 29/23
- BEA Systems David Orchard
- Canon Jean-Jacques Moreau
- Canon Herve Ruellan
- Compaq Yin-Leng Husband (Scribe)
- DevelopMentor Martin Gudgin
- Ericsson Research Canada Nilo Mitra
- Fujitsu Limited Kazunori Iwasa
- Hewlett Packard Stuart Williams
- IBM John Ibbotson
- IBM David Fallside
- IBM Doug Davis
- Informix Software Charles Campbell
- Intel Randy Hall
- Intel Highland Mary Mountain
- Lotus Development Noah Mendelsohn
- Macromedia Glen Daniels
- Microsoft Corporation Henrik Nielsen
- Mitre Paul Denning
- Mitre Marwan Sabbouh
- Oracle Anish Karmarkar
- Philips Research Amr Yassin
- SAP AG Volker Wiechers
- Software AG Michael Champion
- Sun Microsystems Marc Hadley
- Tibco Frank DeRose
- Unisys Lynne Thompson
- Unisys Nick Smilonich
- W3C Yves Lafon
- W3C Hugo Haas
- WebMethods Dave Cleary
Excused
- Compaq Kevin Perkins
- DevelopMentor Don Box
- Fujitsu Limited Masahiko Narita
- Informix Software Soumitro Tagore
- Macromedia Simeon Simeonov
- Microsoft Corporation Paul Cotton
- Philips Research Yasser alSafadi
- SAP AG Gerd Hoelzing
- Software AG Dietmar Gaertner
- Sun Microsystems Chris Ferris
Regrets
- Active Data Exchange Richard Martin
- Active Data Exchange Shane Sesta
- Akamai Technologies Mark Nottingham
- AT&T Mark Jones
- Commerce One Jay Kasi
- DaimlerChrysler R. & Tech Mario Jeckle
- Data Research Associates Mark Needleman
- Engenia Software Jeffrey Kay
- Engenia Software Eric Jenkins
- IONA Technologies Oisin Hurley
- Library of Congress Ray Denenberg
- Matsushita Electric Ryuji Inoue
- Netscape Vidur Apparao
- Netscape Ray Whitmer
- OMG Henry Lowe
- Rogue Wave Murali Janakiraman
- Vitria Technology Inc. Tony Lee
- WebMethods Randy Waldrop
- Xerox Ugo Corda
Absent
- AT&T Michah Lerner
- BEA Systems Jags Ramnaryan
- Commerce One David Burdett
- DaimlerChrysler R. & Tech Andreas Riegg
- IDOOX Jacek Kopecky
- IDOOX Miroslav Simek
- Interwoven Mark Hale
- Interwoven Ron Daniel
- IONA Technologies Eric Newcomer
- Library of Congress Rich Greenfield
- Martsoft Jin Yu
- Novell Scott Isaacson
- Propel Daniela Florescu
- Rogue Wave Patrick Thompson
- Vitria Technology Inc. Richard Koo
2. Agenda review
No AOB
3. Approval of minutes from Aug 29 [1] telcon
Approved.
4. Review action items
Editors - pending
ChrisF & EricJ - pending
Editors - done
Editors - done
Hugo - done
David - done
Gudge - done
Editors - done
Editors - pending
PaulC - pending
Noah - done
Hugo - done
Hugo - done
Hugo - done
5. Status reports
-- RPCTF
Frank - agenda item for discussion at f2f.
-- Transport binding task force
Item 24 is an agenda item for presentation/discussion at f2f.
-- Editors
Mark & JJ: made various editorial changes to spec.
-- Evaluation of Primer proposal
Nilo gave overview of second rev. of the Primer proposal.
This was accepted as a better 'weight' for a Primer.
Nilo will be editor of Primer, and is chartered to generate a primer
as outlined. He may borrow text from output of various internal
documents of the XML WG. Chuck & Mark will help.
6. Issue list
134: Support of XMLBase and relative URI's.
Noah gave a summary of his proposed text.
This was followed by discussion on possible pushback for not
"aggressively supporting a published W3C recommendation".
Concerns were raised on interoperability and whether there would
be pushback should XMLBase become part of W3C's core XML spec.
Another concern was whether many existing SOAP implementations and
XML parsers supported XMLBase.
To resolve this issue, 3 steps were decided:
1) To ask W3C XML Core group to clarify their intentions on the support of XMLBase.
2) To conduct a survey of XMLBase support in SOAP implementations,
XML parsers, and within SOAPBuilders.
3) As a fallback option, we may use Noah's proposed text (with suitable
editorial change to last paragraph). The WG was generally in agreement with
this text as a reasonable option (no one said they could not live
with it).
David Orchard will do (1), Chuck (2).
62: mU for extensions. Oisin absent, so not discussed.
63: standard failure for extensions. Oisin absent, so not discussed.
14: SOAP versioning
Issue effectively resolved at Dinard f2f by changing the SOAP namespace
URI and providing a description of how 1.1/1.2 versioning should be achieved.
Martin will send email to Larry Masinter (issue originator), xml-dist-app, and
xmlp-comment. The WG considers this issue closed.
66: XMLP revision mechanism
This issue is also resolved via the SOAP namespace versioning mechanism.
Martin will send email to Oisin, xml-dist-app, and xmlp-comment. The WG considers this issue closed.
19: namespace of Fault children
Henrik and Bryan had some mail exchanges and concluded that both
mechanisms are reasonable. He proposed to stay with status quo
to not break things unnecessarily and to close issue. Had things
started from scratch, it could have gone either way.
Henrik will send email to Bryan, xml-dist-app, and xmlp-comment. The WG considers this issue closed.
45: faultcodes for RPC
Issue resolved. Marc will tighten text to say "when describing faults
in Part 1 of this specification".
Hugo will send email to Vidur, xml-dist-app, and xmlp-comment. The WG considers this issue closed.
122: Missing reference link
Hugo failed to reproduce/identify the issue. He has tried contacting the issue originator who has
not responded thus far. Hugo will wait another week for a response, and will close the issue if
he receives no response.
Issues 71 and 107 not discussed due to lack of time.