Minutes of XML Protocol telcon, 19 Sept 2001.
1. Roll call
- Akamai Technologies Mark Nottingham
- AT&T Mark Jones
- Canon Jean-Jacques Moreau
- DaimlerChrysler R. & Tech Mario Jeckle
- DevelopMentor Martin Gudgin
- Engenia Software Eric Jenkins
- Ericsson Research Canada Nilo Mitra
- Fujitsu Limited Kazunori Iwasa
- Hewlett Packard Stuart Williams
- IBM John Ibbotson
- IBM David Fallside
- IBM Doug Davis
- IDOOX Jacek Kopecky
- Intel Randy Hall
- Intel Highland Mary Mountain
- IONA Technologies Oisin Hurley
- Library of Congress Ray Denenberg
- Lotus Development Noah Mendelsohn
- Macromedia Glen Daniels
- Microsoft Corporation Henrik Nielsen
- Microsoft Corporation Paul Cotton
- Mitre Marwan Sabbouh
- Mitre Paul Denning
- Netscape Vidur Apparao
- Philips Research Amr Yassin
- Rogue Wave Murali Janakiraman
- Software AG Michael Champion
- Sun Microsystems Marc Hadley
- Unisys Lynne Thompson
- Vitria Technology Inc. Tony Lee
- W3C Hugo Haas
- WebMethods Dave Cleary
- Xerox Ugo Corda
- AT&T Michah Lerner
- Canon Herve Ruellan
- DaimlerChrysler R. & Tech Andreas Riegg
- DevelopMentor Don Box
- Engenia Software Jeffrey Kay
- Fujitsu Limited Masahiko Narita
- IDOOX Miroslav Simek
- IONA Technologies Eric Newcomer
- Library of Congress Rich Greenfield
- Macromedia Simeon Simeonov
- Netscape Ray Whitmer
- Philips Research Yasser alSafadi
- Rogue Wave Patrick Thompson
- Software AG Dietmar Gaertner
- Sun Microsystems Chris Ferris
- Unisys Nick Smilonich
- Vitria Technology Inc. Richard Koo
- W3C Yves Lafon
- WebMethods Randy Waldrop
- SAP AG Volker Wiechers
- Active Data Exchange Richard Martin
- Compaq Yin-Leng Husband
- Data Research Associates Mark Needleman
- Matsushita Electric Ryuji Inoue
- Active Data Exchange Shane Sesta
- BEA Systems Jags Ramnaryan
- BEA Systems David Orchard
- Compaq Kevin Perkins
- Informix Software Charles Campbell
- Informix Software Soumitro Tagore
- Interwoven Mark Hale
- Interwoven Ron Daniel
- Martsoft Jin Yu
- Novell Winston Bumpus
- Novell Scott Isaacson
- OMG Henry Lowe
- Oracle Anish Karmarkar
- Oracle Jeff MischKinsky
- Propel Daniela Florescu
- SAP AG Gerd Hoelzing
- Tibco Frank DeRose
3. Agenda Review:
One additional item added by DavidF. A proposal to have the February
face to face for two days instead of three based on the results of the
email survey . Also to allow observers as space allowed. This proposal
was approved by the WG.
4. Action Items:
Long list of action items were stepped through without controversy.
5. Status Reports:
The editors are waiting for text from Issues 11 and 13.
They have incorporated some editorial comments but are also
waiting for text for the RPC and TB sections.
RPC namespace and results element were decided upon at
the face to face. These need to be described in the text.
DavidF will followup with the RPC TF to generate this text
by noon PST on friday for submission to the editors.
Proposal by DavidF that by the end of the week the editors
complete incorporating all comments. The resulting document is
the WD going forward. The WG group can then review it for
several days and take a vote at the next telcon.
Some of the issues which need to be incorporated:
- Changing the namespaces to reflect the new date
- Add some ednotes to explain why infoset terminology is
not used in some sections.
- Demote section 7 in part 2: Security Considerations to
the HTTP section and change the wording.
This proposal was accepted by the WG.
The TBTF is currently pursuing 3 actions:
1. Clarifying the description of the framework
2. HTTP binding cast (using common language) in terms of
3. Define message exchange pattern that will be used in #2
that can also be useful for other bindings.
6. Comments on the face to face:
Confusion over the apparent inconsistency in SOAPAction
resolution. The crux is that it is optional yet may result in a
fault. The generalized question is then what is a feature and what
The consensus was that the text should describe SOAPAction as a
feature and there would be text describing features as
optional. But for the interim the accepted proposal wass to add an
ednote stating that the WG is considering recasting SOAPAction in
a more general framework for optional features. Action item
assigned to prepare this note.
7. Issue 77:
Section 2.5 part 1 already has some text on this subject. The
accepted proposal was to retain status quo on this. Mark is to send
some resolution text to the originator of this issue.
8. Issues 11 and 13:
The proposal+amendment [2, 3] on the mailing list was accepted. However
there was some debate over where the text should appear, either
in the WD or in something the TBTF is producing. The decision was
made to include it in the WD for now and move it if it looks
out of place.
9. Postponed due to time.