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PRESENT 38/30 Active Data Exchange Eric Fedok alternate Allaire Glen Daniels principal AT&T Mark Jones principal Bowstreet Alex Ceponkus alternate Canon Jean-Jacques Moreau principal Compaq Yin-Leng Husband principal Compaq Kevin Perkins alternate Data Research Assoc Mark Needleman principal DataChannel Yan Xu principal Epicentric Bjoern Heckel principal Fujitsu Software Kazunori Iwasa principal Group 8760 Dick Brooks ebXML contact Hewlett Packard David Ezell principal Hewlett Packard Stuart Williams alternate IBM David Fallside chair IBM John Ibbotson principal Intel Randy Hall principal IONA Technologies Oisin Hurley principal Jamcracker David Orchard principal Lotus Development Noah Mendelsohn principal Microsoft Corporation Henrik Nielsen principal Mitre Marwan Sabbouh principal Mitre Paul Denning alternate Netscape Vidur Apparao principal Oracle David Clay principal Oracle Jim Trezzo alternate Progress Software Andrew Eisenberg alternate Rogue Wave Patrick Thompson alternate SAP AG Volker Wiechers principal SAP AG Gerd Hoelzing alternate Software AG Michael Champion principal Sun Microsystems Ed Mooney principal Sun Microsystems Mark Baker alternate Tibco Frank DeRose principal Unisys Nick Smilonich alternate W3C Hugo Haas alt team contact Xerox Tom Breuel alternate XMLSolutions Kevin Mitchell principal AUTOMATICALLY EXCUSED Active Data Exchange Richard Martin principal Allaire Simeon Simeonov alternate Bowstreet James Tauber principal Canon Herve Ruellan alternate Epicentric Dean Moses alternate Fujitsu Software Corp Jim Hughes alternate IBM Fransisco Cubera alternate IONA Technologies Eric Newcomer alternate Microsoft Corporation Paul Cotton alternate Netscape Ray Whitmer alternate Progress Software David Cleary principal Rogue Wave Murali Janakiraman principal Software AG Dietmar Gaertner alternate Unisys Lynne Thompson principal W3C Yves Lafon team contact Xerox Bill Anderson principal XMLSolutions John Evdemon alternate REGRETS 14/12 Akamai Technologies Mark Nottingham principal Calico Commerce Rekha Nagarajan principal DaimlerChrysler Mario Jeckle principal DaimlerChrysler Andreas Riegg alternate DevelopMentor Martin Gudgin principal Engenia Software Jeffrey Kay principal Informix Software Charles Campbell principal Library of Congress Ray Denenberg principal NCR Vilhelm Rosenqvist principal OMG Henry Lowe principal Philips Research Yasser alSafadi principal Philips Research Amr Yassin alternate Vignette Conleth O'Connell principal WebMethods Randy Waldrop principal ABSENT WITHOUT EXPLANATION 11/8 Commerce One David Burdett principal Commerce One Murray Maloney alternate DevelopMentor Don Box alternate Engenia Software Michael Freeman alternate Ericsson Research Nilo Mitra principal Library of Congress Rich Greenfield alternate NCR Lew Shannon alternate Vitria Technology Inc Waqar Sadiq principal Vitria Technology Inc Richard Koo alternate XMLGlobal Technologies David Webber principal XMLGlobal Technologies Matthew MacKenzie alternate
AOB: F2F agenda (Henrik).
Approval of minutes postponed to next meeting, when members will have had more time to review them.
Editors to produce annotations document with links to xp-reqs-02. Main categories of discussion (Henrik):
Glen Daniels suggests and it is the consensus that use cases constitute fourth category for discussion.
Editors need more discussion if they are to make changes (Henrik). Several suggestions proposed recently (Oisin Hurley).
Need stable documents by next meeting. Will be on required reading list for F2F (David F). Need to agree on subjects for active discussion (Noah Mendelsohn). Get in your suggestions for F2F agenda. David F to publish agenda next week.
Hugo to check into diff tools.
General agreement that annotations document will represent differences between xp-reqs-02 and a future xp-reqs-03.
What does it mean to discuss out of scope items (David F)? How will out-0f-scope issues be addressed in the future (Frank DeRose)?
Hugo Haas to check whether we can add use cases later if draft goes out without them.
Henrik to publish annotations document COB (PST) Thursday Nov. 30.
Out-of-scope section leads to stimulate public discussion. Get roll-up to Henrik by COB (PST) Tue. Dec. 5.
Henrik to ask Martin Gudgin to produce another version of Glossary for discussion at next week's meeting (Dec. 6).
Final discussion prior to F2F at regular telcon on Wed. Dec. 6.
The following DR's did not make the 2/3 "Y" criteria: 608 609 612 702 203 303 305 309. We will start work to achieve agreement on these DRs. Consult xml-dist-app discussion on these requirements, plus the L and D ballot emails .
Favors dropping it because we ought not be in the business of specifying language bindings (Noah).
Does dropping it prclude a "binding" to an error format (Dick Brooks)?
DR202 enables error binding (Vidur).
Question from Dave Clay kicks off discussion about portable clients. Perhaps a topic for some other part of this activity (Noah).
In many ways similar to first requirement in 600 section (Henrik).
Charter requires XP to be incrementally extensible to support security (David F).
Come up with use cases for particular security protocols (John Ibbotson)?
ebXML use cases sent out recently address security (Dick Brooks).
Likes new wording, understood it to mean the same ast the old (Dave Clay).
Pick a few specific security protocols and say it's our intent not to preclude them (Tom Breuel)?
SSL and S/MIME not meant be an exhaustive list (David F).
Perhaps we need also to define what we mean when we say "do not preclude" (Oisin).
F2F registration closes end of day Wed. 12/6.
Attendee list posted 12/7 (David F.).
Paul Cotton posted reminder about block bookings. Though date has now passed, David F. was still able to get a room.
Agenda will be posted after next week's telcon.
Local transportation between hotel and MS (Mark Jones)? Henrik to check with Paul Cotton.