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@prefix pd: <http://www.w3.org/2000/08/palm56/datebook#> .
@prefix pa: <http://www.w3.org/2000/08/palm56/addr#> .
@prefix w: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> .
@prefix rdfc: <http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCoreWGCharter#> .
@prefix n: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> .
@prefix who: <http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/members#> .
@prefix mr: <http://www.w3.org/2000/11/mr76/minutes#> .
@prefix m: <http://www.w3.org/2000/04/maillog2rdf/email#> .
@prefix log: <http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/log#> .
@prefix u: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#> .

<http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/> u:label "W3C RDFCore Working Group".
<http://www.agfa.com/w3c/euler/rdfc25May> a rdfc:Teleconference.
<http://www.agfa.com/w3c/euler/rdfc25May> mr:date "2001-05-25".
<http://www.agfa.com/w3c/euler/rdfc25May> mr:roll _:8089714_1.
_:8089714_1 n:_1 _:1270312_1.
_:1270312_1 mr:from who:brian_mcbride.
_:1270312_1 a mr:ChairAck.
_:8089714_1 n:_2 _:1128272_1.
_:1128272_1 mr:from who:danbri.
_:1128272_1 a mr:Present.
_:8089714_1 n:_3 _:4616912_1.
_:4616912_1 mr:from who:barstow.
_:4616912_1 a mr:Present.
_:8089714_1 n:_4 _:1822782_1.
_:1822782_1 mr:from who:beckett.
_:1822782_1 a mr:Present.
_:8089714_1 n:_5 _:306121_1.
_:306121_1 mr:from who:frank.
_:306121_1 a mr:Absent.
_:8089714_1 n:_6 _:2765838_1.
_:2765838_1 mr:from who:connolly.
_:2765838_1 a mr:ScribeAck.
_:8089714_1 n:_7 _:4177328_1.
_:4177328_1 mr:from who:rdaniel.
_:4177328_1 a mr:Regrets.
_:8089714_1 n:_8 _:4097744_1.
_:4097744_1 mr:from who:bdehora.
_:4097744_1 a mr:Present.
_:8089714_1 n:_10 _:2083945_1.
_:2083945_1 mr:from who:rael.
_:2083945_1 a mr:Absent.
_:8089714_1 n:_9 _:328041_1.
_:328041_1 mr:from who:deroo.
_:328041_1 a mr:Regrets.
_:8089714_1 n:_11 _:2438296_1.
_:2438296_1 mr:from who:grant.
_:2438296_1 a mr:Present.
_:8089714_1 n:_12 _:2092911_1.
_:2092911_1 mr:from who:horner.
_:2092911_1 a mr:Absent.
_:8089714_1 n:_13 _:2137934_1.
_:2137934_1 mr:from who:renato.
_:2137934_1 a mr:Absent.
_:8089714_1 n:_14 _:3852104_1.
_:3852104_1 mr:from who:ykitahara.
_:3852104_1 a mr:Absent.
_:8089714_1 n:_15 _:7434986_1.
_:7434986_1 mr:from who:Klyne.
_:7434986_1 a mr:Regrets.
_:8089714_1 n:_16 _:3106436_1.
_:3106436_1 mr:from who:mkopchenov.
_:3106436_1 a mr:Absent.
_:8089714_1 n:_17 _:7571352_1.
_:7571352_1 mr:from who:lassila.
_:7571352_1 a mr:Absent.
_:8089714_1 n:_18 _:4923951_1.
_:4923951_1 mr:from who:fmanola.
_:4923951_1 a mr:Present.
_:8089714_1 n:_19 _:3238392_1.
_:3238392_1 mr:from who:snakamura.
_:3238392_1 a mr:Absent.
_:8089714_1 n:_20 _:2381750_1.
_:2381750_1 mr:from who:spetschu.
_:2381750_1 a mr:Present.
_:8089714_1 n:_21 _:8026323_1.
_:8026323_1 mr:from who:pgr.
_:8026323_1 a mr:Absent.
_:8089714_1 n:_22 _:1217030_1.
_:1217030_1 mr:from who:aswartz.
_:1217030_1 a mr:Present.
_:8089714_1 n:_23 _:3207485_1.
_:3207485_1 mr:from who:mdean.
_:3207485_1 a mr:Present.
_:8089714_1 n:_24 _:3014669_1.
_:3014669_1 mr:from who:guha.
_:3014669_1 a mr:Absent.
_:8089714_1 n:_25 _:350965_1.
_:350965_1 mr:from who:em.
_:350965_1 a mr:Present.
<http://www.agfa.com/w3c/euler/rdfc25May> mr:agenda _:1482257_1.
_:1482257_1 n:_1 _:6527550_1.
_:6527550_1 u:label """00  Welcome, Roll Call, volunteer scribe, Agenda
                 Review Minutes of previous meeting""".
_:6527550_1 mr:summary """minutes recorded by EricM approved as corrected in 0124, 0125 @@links.
DanBri: intends to meet with Guha next week in IRC and to get a brain dump from him.
McBride solicits folks with test cases to send them to him.

McBride reminds all that ftf is scheduled for 1,2 Aug.
agenda request: discussion of communicating resolutions to developer community.
""".
_:6527550_1 mr:result _:2330935_1.
_:2330935_1 a mr:ActionAck.
_:2330935_1 mr:index n:_1.
_:2330935_1 mr:from who:guha.
_:2330935_1 u:label "Solicit RDF feature usage info and report back to the group".
_:6527550_1 mr:result _:1238924_1.
_:1238924_1 a mr:ActionDone.
_:1238924_1 mr:index n:_2.
_:1238924_1 mr:from who:beckett.
_:1238924_1 u:label "Update the proposed changes for this issue[@@which?] and add test cases to demonstrate how they worked.".
_:6527550_1 mr:result _:2080403_1.
_:2080403_1 mr:index n:_3.
_:2080403_1 mr:from who:lassilla.
_:2080403_1 mr:from who:danbri.
_:2080403_1 u:label """send analysis (#rdf-container-syntax-ambiguity and
    #rdf-containers-syntax-vs-schema)to rdfcore-wg list""".
_:2080403_1 a mr:ActionAck.
_:6527550_1 mr:result _:1630127_1.
_:1630127_1 mr:index n:_4.
_:1630127_1 mr:from who:beckett.
_:1630127_1 u:label "re #rdfms-not-id-and-resource-attr: Revise analysis and post to list".
_:1630127_1 a mr:ActionDone.
_:6527550_1 mr:result _:362000_1.
_:362000_1 mr:index n:_4.
_:362000_1 mr:from who:guha.
_:362000_1 u:label "re #rdfms-reification-required: Present analaysis to list for discussion.".
_:362000_1 a mr:ActionAck.
_:6527550_1 mr:result _:2398389_1.
_:2398389_1 mr:index n:_6.
_:2398389_1 mr:from who:brian_mcbride.
_:2398389_1 u:label "Link test cases, results etc. from issues list".
_:2398389_1 a mr:ActionAck.
_:6527550_1 mr:result _:2468673_1.
_:2468673_1 mr:index n:_7.
_:2468673_1 mr:from who:grant.
_:2468673_1 u:label "Do an analysis of the impact of XML Base and summarise to list.".
_:2468673_1 a mr:ActionAck.
_:6527550_1 mr:result _:933472_1.
_:933472_1 mr:index n:_8.
_:933472_1 mr:from who:brian_mcbride.
_:933472_1 u:label "Contact Rael about hosting face to face at O'Reilly.".
_:933472_1 a mr:ActionAck.
_:6527550_1 mr:result _:2172400_1.
_:2172400_1 mr:index n:_9.
_:2172400_1 mr:from who:Klyne.
_:2172400_1 mr:from who:fmanola.
_:2172400_1 u:label """to summarize www-rdf-logic perspective of reification as 
 it applies to both logic and rdf andreport back to rdfcore wg""".
_:2172400_1 a mr:ActionAck.
_:6527550_1 mr:result _:4312351_1.
_:4312351_1 mr:index n:_10.
_:4312351_1 a mr:Withdrawn.
_:4312351_1 u:label "dup of A9".
_:6527550_1 mr:result _:110499_1.
_:110499_1 mr:index n:_11.
_:110499_1 mr:from who:em.
_:110499_1 u:label "to provide a solution enabling write access to RDF M&S and Schema errata documents.".
_:110499_1 a mr:ActionDone.
_:6527550_1 mr:result _:3274522_1.
_:3274522_1 mr:deliverable <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001May/0178.html>.
_:3274522_1 mr:index n:_12.
_:3274522_1 mr:from who:barstow.
_:3274522_1 u:label """to formalize his suggestion RDFCore changes be reflected in
                    a separate page so developers can easily find these
                    issues/resolutions.""".
_:3274522_1 a mr:ActionDone.
_:1482257_1 n:_2 _:5636586_1.
_:5636586_1 u:label "15  re issues: #rdf-containers-syntax-ambiguity #rdf-containers-syntax-vs-schema".
_:5636586_1 mr:summary "postponed. @@make this a class.".
_:1482257_1 n:_3 _:1561175_1.
_:1561175_1 u:label "30 re issue: #rdf-ns-prefix-confusion".
_:1561175_1 mr:summary """
Connolly: so the language doesn't contain these documents. Good. that's clear.
Connolly: licensing processors to accept documents that aren't in the language is risky... the user community learns what the language is by what the tools do.
[... scribe is discussing too much to do a good job recording; help? ]
EricM: there's a requirement for syntactic inclusion in HTML.
BillD: I think we need to fix productions 4, 5, and 9
DaveB: I listed a bunch of productions in item2 of the proposal...
BillD: let's make it clear that folks MUST NOT use unprefixed resource/about/.. attrs.
em  notes that he may have overstated earlier requirements as there is no specified requirement of syntactic inclusion in M&S Specification.
item 7 is withdrawn; change is incorporated into item 2.
ArtB: so you're changing production 6.19 so that the prefix is not optional?
DaveB: yes.
ArtB: do folks realize there might be a lot of RDF out there in this form?
several: yes.
BillD: this looks like an erratum then; the grammar had a typo.
EricM: let's note this in both places: the errata and the developers page.
BrianM: DaveB's proposal should be couched in terms of 'namespace qualified' rather than 'namespace
prefixed'.
scribe note: "prefixed" doesn't occur in the RDF 1.0 spec.
DaveB: I have 7 tests.
""".
_:1561175_1 mr:result _:7494106_1.
_:7494106_1 a mr:Decision.
_:7494106_1 u:label """
The current RDF/XML syntax uses the following attributes in the syntax:

     about aboutEach aboutEachPrefix
     ID bagID
     resource
     parseType
     -- List of RDF attributes (henceforth The List)

     The remaining concepts are not in the list because:
       a. Seq Bag Alt Property Statement
         These are rdfs:Class-es and can never be used as attributes
       b. RDF Description   
         Syntax only things that have no current use as attributes
       c. li _<n> subject predicate object type value
         Not allowed to be used unprefixed according to the grammar

     Note Re: aboutEach aboutEachPrefix
       At present it is expected these will be removed from the
       specification although the WG has not addressed this yet.
       See thread at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001May/0123.html
[@@@hmm... formatting/structure of decisions]
""".
_:1561175_1 mr:result _:6893794_1.
_:6893794_1 a mr:Decision.
_:6893794_1 u:label """
2.  The grammar will be corrected to require namespace-qualification
    for all attributes for The List.  A namespace prefix MUST be used
    for these attributes, where the namespace prefix points to the
    RDF URI http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#

    The meaning of the attributes is defined by the appropriate RDF
    M&S sections and is not modified here.

    The changes to the grammar at
      http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-rdf-syntax/#grammar
    include modifying productions 6.6, 6.7, 6.8, 6.9, 6.11, 6.18,
    6.32, 6.33 to have rdf: added before all the attributes.  There
    are almost certainly other changes to the grammar, as well as
    changes throughout the rest of the document such as examples and
    in-text mentions.
""".
_:1561175_1 mr:result _:555115_1.
_:555115_1 a mr:Decision.
_:555115_1 u:label "to remove 3, 4, 5 from the proposal of Thu, 24 May 2001 14:47:07 +0100; i.e. not to license RDF processors to accept documents that contain unprefixed attributes".
_:1561175_1 mr:result _:1687682_1.
_:1687682_1 a mr:Decision.
_:1687682_1 u:label """6.  The grammar will be corrected to allow non-prefixed [correction: _not_ non-qualified] RDF elements (NOT attributes) when a default XML
    namespace is defined with an xmlns="..." attribute.

    Discussion: For example
      <Description xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
         ...
      </Description>
    is currently forbidden by production 6.3; it requires rdf:Description
""".
_:1561175_1 mr:result _:3003101_1.
_:3003101_1 a mr:ActionAck.
_:3003101_1 mr:from who:brian_mcbride.
_:3003101_1 u:label "edit the errata per the resolutions above; i.e. those regarding #rdf-ns-prefix-confusion".
_:1561175_1 mr:result _:7267180_1.
_:7267180_1 a mr:ActionAck.
_:7267180_1 mr:from who:beckett.
_:7267180_1 u:label "assemble test cases re #rdf-ns-prefix-confusion and suggest details of how the grammar in the spec should be updated.".
_:1482257_1 n:_4 _:1367942_1.
_:1367942_1 u:label "Format for expected results of test cases".
_:1367942_1 mr:summary """jang: we have an evolving convention for test case input; I have a suggestion for "expected results" format. that I intend to send.""".
_:1367942_1 mr:result _:6224410_1.
_:6224410_1 a mr:ActionAck.
_:6224410_1 mr:from who:grant.
_:6224410_1 u:label "propose expected results format.".
_:1482257_1 n:_5 _:7723526_1.
_:7723526_1 u:label "Adjournment".
_:7723526_1 mr:result _:3997960_1.
_:3997960_1 a mr:Decision.
_:3997960_1 u:label "to meet again one week hence".
<http://www.agfa.com/w3c/euler/rdfc25May> mr:previous <mid:5.1.0.14.2.20010518145947.080e8268@localhost>.
<http://www.agfa.com/w3c/euler/rdfc25May> mr:meetingCall <mid:3B0D19C7.7EA85FDF@hplb.hpl.hp.com>.
<mid:3B0D19C7.7EA85FDF@hplb.hpl.hp.com> mr:archivedIn <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001May/0168.html>.
<mid:3B0D19C7.7EA85FDF@hplb.hpl.hp.com> m:subject "RDFCore WG 2001-05-25 Teleconference Agenda".
<mid:5.1.0.14.2.20010518145947.080e8268@localhost> mr:archivedIn <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-rdfcore-wg/2001May/0122.html>.
_:971877_1 mr:record <mid:5.1.0.14.2.20010518145947.080e8268@localhost>.
_:971877_1 mr:date "2001-05-18".
rdfc:Teleconference a u:Class.
rdfc:Teleconference u:label "Teleconference".
rdfc:Teleconference u:seeAlso <http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/RDFCore/>.


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